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Well, Discovery is so far in the future that it's unlikely to affect anything canon. As for LD, first it's just a cartoon, and second, it's much more cartoonish than say TAS and so I don't think we should count it as canon. For all intents and purposes, it's a parody or a pastiche, if you prefer.

Everything DSC does is canon by definition. So is Lower Decks. And TAS has been officially canon according to CBS for a long time, too. The only reason TAS was ever not officially canon was not because it's a cartoon but because there were legal issues related to what they could or couldn't reference without having to pay extra money to certain people.
 
So I just noticed, that Eli (the Medical hologram) was credited as 'Eli the EMH' in the end credits. Interesting, I just assumed he was just a standard one not an Emergency model.

Was it just me, or did they show a dude wearing a TNG season 1 uniform in the preview for next week's episode?

Yes we were discussing it in the promo thread
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/season-3-episode-9-terra-firma-pt-1-promo.306450/

There was a clip shown at the end of the after show that explains why.
 
So I just noticed, that Eli (the Medical hologram) was credited as 'Eli the EMH' in the end credits. Interesting, I just assumed he was just a standard one not an Emergency model.



Yes we were discussing it in the promo thread
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/season-3-episode-9-terra-firma-pt-1-promo.306450/

There was a clip shown at the end of the after show that explains why.

"This is Yor. He was a popular cosplayer a few years back, but he could never get ahold of the correct combadge for some reason."
 
I just looked at Ian Lake’s Twitter and was shocked how different he looks from his Orion character. (He was Osyraa’s nephew.)

https://mobile.twitter.com/ianlake

Frankly, I think he would have looked a lot better had they just painted him green. His face has interesting, lived-in character. Based on what was on screen, I expected him to be about 23, but he’s really in his late 30s.
 
I just looked at Ian Lake’s Twitter and was shocked how different he looks from his Orion character. (He was Osyraa’s nephew.)

https://mobile.twitter.com/ianlake

Frankly, I think he would have looked a lot better had they just painted him green. His face has interesting, lived-in character. Based on what was on screen, I expected him to be about 23, but he’s really in his late 30s.

Seems like they built up his nose? I noticed that on Osyraa as well. Not sure why it's needed TBH.

Also, you can see in the photo with SMG the makeup around his mouth started cracking when he tried to smile. Which pretty much shows that the makeup does inhibit the full range of facial expression.
 
Seems like they built up his nose? I noticed that on Osyraa as well. Not sure why it's needed TBH.

Also, you can see in the photo with SMG the makeup around his mouth started cracking when he tried to smile. Which pretty much shows that the makeup does inhibit the full range of facial expression.

Yeah, I don't get what they're going for. Uncanny? That seems like a an odd goal when so much CGI is uncanny. A lot of FX work goes into trying to avoid that.

I also don't get why you'd want the characters' faces to be devoid of lines and character. That makes sense for Odo, but Orion space pirates?

I just looked at pics of Janet Kidder (Osyraa) and think she would have benefited from green makeup as well. The character might have worked better had she not seemed so young.

By the way, I just read that Janet is the niece of Margot Kidder, who played Lois Lane in the Christopher Reeve Superman movies. I didn't know that.
 
God I loved Margot Kidder. Huge crush...

(I know. Irrelevant.)

When I think of powerful female aliens, none terrifies me more than Odala, leader of the Voth, and Keeper of the Faith, as it were. Osyraa reminds me a lot of Mirror-Kira Nerys.
 
Everything DSC does is canon by definition. So is Lower Decks. And TAS has been officially canon according to CBS for a long time, too. The only reason TAS was ever not officially canon was not because it's a cartoon but because there were legal issues related to what they could or couldn't reference without having to pay extra money to certain people.

I love Lower Decks but the idea it's canon is ridiculous
 
Too bad its canon, then.
TBH I don't really care what people think is or isn't canon and it's up to the individual.
In Star Wars I block out the cartoons but canonised the Jacen and Jaina stuff until the new movies gave me a new canon and people are free to believe whatever is alternative timeline or just a joke cartoon.

Although Jaina Solo will forever be canon in my dreams
 
TBH I don't really care what people think is or isn't canon and it's up to the individual.
In Star Wars I block out the cartoons but canonised the Jacen and Jaina stuff until the new movies gave me a new canon and people are free to believe whatever is alternative timeline or just a joke cartoon.

Although Jaina Solo will forever be canon in my dreams
Cool. We don't determine canon. Whether it fits in the same continuity is another question.
 
TBH I don't really care what people think is or isn't canon and it's up to the individual.
In Star Wars I block out the cartoons but canonised the Jacen and Jaina stuff until the new movies gave me a new canon and people are free to believe whatever is alternative timeline or just a joke cartoon.

Although Jaina Solo will forever be canon in my dreams

You can ignore whatever you want to but that doesn't determine what is or isn't canon. What you're talking about here is your interpretation of trek - some people call it head-canon but whatever you call it it's a completely separate concept from canon.
 
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