Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

[hbquikcomjamesl]

I just saw "Lethe." Hmm. I see Tilly is definitely coming out of her shell.

I know that Theodore Sturgeon introduced us to the idea that Vulcans could be racist (T'Pring and Stonn; T'Pau simply believed Spock was flaunting his Human blood), but I'm not so sure Dorothy Fontana would approve of a Vulcan suicide bomber.

 

[DaveyNY]

I just saw "Lethe." Hmm. I see Tilly is definitely coming out of her shell.

I know that Theodore Sturgeon introduced us to the idea that Vulcans could be racist (T'Pring and Stonn; T'Pau simply believed Spock was flaunting his Human blood), but I'm not so sure Dorothy Fontana would approve of a Vulcan suicide bomber.

T'Pring was anything but racist.

She simply did not want to be the consort of a guy who was never going to be around.
As she said (paraphrase), Stonn was going to always be available for procreation and a Family, Spock wasn't.

That's not Racism, that's Female Vanity, dressed up as Vulcan Logic.

 

[Tuskin38]

There were also Vulcan separatists in TNG. Remember the one that tried to take that psychic weapon?

 

[DaveyNY]

There were also Vulcan separatists in TNG. Remember the one that tried to take that psychic weapon?

Apparently, they never went away, for we saw a version of them in ENTERPRISE as well.
(though things were a bit out of control with the Romulans being involved at that time)

But, I highly doubt that T'Pring could be classified as such just based on what we saw of her in "Amok Time".

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Racist T'Pring or not, I really don't see Dorothy Fontana being very happy about the idea of Vulcans who are fanatically racist enough to be suicide bombers.

"Magic . . ." Hmm. Like deja vu all over again. Or is it "Cause and Effect" all over again?

Our ingenue is becoming quite the party animal. But 20th century disco, rap, and soul, in a 23rd century party? Is that the 20th century music that will be remembered? (Not that I don't lament the idea of Wagner still being remembered in another 2 centuries, but at least that fits Harry Mudd.)

Rainn Wilson, alas, is no Roger C. Carmel. Although I can see Katherine Barrell as a younger, less-shrill, Kay Elliot.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Racist T'Pring or not, I really don't see Dorothy Fontana being very happy about the idea of Vulcans who are fanatically racist enough to be suicide bombers.

She was okay with Vulcan bullies. With Vulcan lying. She didn't object to scheming two-timing Vulcans with a callous disregard for life.

 

[Vger23]

Racist T'Pring or not, I really don't see Dorothy Fontana being very happy about the idea of Vulcans who are fanatically racist enough to be suicide bombers.

"Magic . . ." Hmm. Like deja vu all over again. Or is it "Cause and Effect" all over again?

Our ingenue is becoming quite the party animal. But 20th century disco, rap, and soul, in a 23rd century party? Is that the 20th century music that will be remembered? (Not that I don't lament the idea of Wagner still being remembered in another 2 centuries, but at least that fits Harry Mudd.)

Rainn Wilson, alas, is no Roger C. Carmel. Although I can see Katherine Barrell as a younger, less-shrill, Kay Elliot.

Magic was really nothing but a fun little episodic break from the main story. When you view it in that light, it works better. It was not my favorite, but I did appreciate it for what it was. And, there were some really nice character moments for Burnham, Stamets and Tyler that I liked.

 

[Lord Garth]

Rainn Wilson, alas, is no Roger C. Carmel.

Roger C. Carmel is a tough act to follow. To paraphrase Valeris, he can only be succeeded.

Stella's father looks like Ra's al Ghul. Or, at the very least, his suit looks like something Ra's would wear.

I'm not so sure Dorothy Fontana would approve of a Vulcan suicide bomber.

Spock (in "Journey to Babel"): "For a logical reason, a Vulcan can kill."
Not-Saavik (in TNG's "Gambit"): "Extremists often have a logic of their own."

 

[Vger23]

Roger C. Carmel is a tough act to follow. To paraphrase Valeris, he can only be succeeded.

Stella's father looks like Ra's al Ghul. Or, at the very least, his suit looks like something Ra's would wear.



Spock (in "Journey to Babel"): "For a logical reason, a Vulcan can kill."
Not-Saavik (in TNG's "Gambit"): "Extremists often have a logic of their own."

People too often think of the Vulcans as this perfect, idealized, serene race. Perhaps the epitome of what Star Trek aspires to.

I for one like the fact that Vulcans are trully MUCH more than that...and have been since TOS if you look carefully and not through rose-colored glasses. The fact is that they can be just as xenophobic, arrogant, and violent as anyone else. It's actually one of the things I genuinely appreciated about the ENT series when I finally decided to give it another try last spring...it really showed the Vulcans through a more realistic lens...making them potentially the LEAST monolithic alien culture in Star Trek.

 

[DigificWriter]

We're exactly two weeks - and counting - away from the return of Discovery, and I have some questions:
1) On a scale of 1 to 10, what is everybody's excitement level?

2) What is everybody doing to get prepared?

 

[DaveyNY]

1) TEN ...
It's been a very long time since a second season of Trek has been forthcoming and I just can't help being actively interested and excited.
The trailers we've seen so far have also peaked my interest.

2) Making sure my Internet bill is paid.

 

[Lord Garth]

On a scale of 1 to 10, it's an 11.

The Disco T-Shirt will be arriving in the mail today.

 

[PiotrB]

1) On a scale of 1 to 10, what is everybody's excitement level?

1. 11
2. Watching s1 again.

 

[DigificWriter]

Answering my own survey:
1) 9
2) Rewatching Season 1

Note: The reason my excitement level is only at a 9 is because I've largely detached myself from the news and marketing for the series due to time and RL constraints, but am still highly anticipating its return nonetheless.

 

[Lord Garth]

Note: The reason my excitement level is only at a 9 is because I've largely detached myself from the news and marketing for the series due to time and RL constraints, but am still highly anticipating its return nonetheless.

There's always Real Life and The News. But, personally, 2019 is already looking like an improvement over what immediately preceded it on both fronts.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I'm at 10. I'd love to rewatch the first season to prepare for season 2 but I'm not finding the time.

 

[Vger23]

On a scale of 1-10, I'm a 13 (Inspired by "...All Good Things" warp scale)

To get ready...I am rewatching the show on BR at a moderate pace, and interacting in this board.

 

[Vger23]

I'm at 10. I'd love to rewatch the first season to prepare for season 2 but I'm not finding the time.

"If something's important enough, you make the time!"

 

[XCV330]

So I see that Dr Culber has grown the beard. What does this purport? Is he now Culber the White? Will he reveal his dazzling uniform under his blue duty jacket to stun Dr. Byce's evil corruption of Pike with cunning words and potent Manhattan's?

 

[DaveyNY]

So I see that Dr Culber has grown the beard. What does this purport? Is he now Culber the White? Will he reveal his dazzling uniform under his blue duty jacket to stun Dr. Byce's evil corruption of Pike with cunning words and potent Manhattan's?

Methinks somebody has been delving a bit too much into the Saurian Brandy while binging on Tolkien Fantasy entertainment.