Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

[fireproof78]

Honestly, watching two people make out on camera for any length of time can be kinda gross.

Unless it's two attractive women I mean.

Gah. No. Just no.

I get it. Kissing on screen is short had for affection and apparently a requisite in a visual medium. I'm not saying "No kissing in Trek!" I am just saying I ignore it, or give it little attention when it is on screen. It briefly disrupts my interest in the story. That's all. Straight, gay, lesbian, don't care. Kissing on TV is not enjoyable.

 

[shapeshifter]

What about fake love-making?

I don't mind kissing pecks, or even a little frenching but when clothes come off, to me that is crossing into soft core porn.

 

[fireproof78]

What about fake love-making?

I don't mind kissing pecks, or even a little frenching but when clothes come off that is crossing into soft core porn.

Yeah, it's all terrible. I get that people want the "show me these people are in love rather than just telling me" but physical affection is more than just kissing or love-making. There are nods, gestures, touches, comments and acts. There's a reason why the book "The 5 Love Languages" is still used in couple's therapy-it describes different people's ways of showing affection. Physical touch is only one of five.

But, regardless of real world psychology, it's just personal preference to not seeing it on screen. This isn't a banishment of it from Trek-just not something I give much attention to or generally ignore when it pops up. If it is fake love-making I'm skipping it completely.

 

[Amasov]

That pretty much makes the entire world emo.

I feel attacked.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I flat out ignore characters kissing in fiction.

Why?

It's irrelevant to the story.

It's relevant if you want your characters to behave and express love and affection like most human beings do.

This is from the opening scene of Love Actually but features actual footage of people at the arrivals gate of Heathrow Airport. Notice all the kissing and hugging?

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The film’s closing montage around London kind of mirrors what you did in Love Actually: final montages of real people experiencing love and life in their own way. Is that something you wanted to do?

Yeah. You have things which obviously appeal to you. And with Love Actually, that [ending] was really important to me. I remember noticing at an airport, it was actually while we were shooting the Mr. Bean film and I was stuck airside, and I suddenly saw all this extraordinary emotion. And I thought, That is the proof that there is so much overflowing love in the world and it’s absolutely core to people’s lives. And that was real documentary footage that we shot without anyone knowing we were shooting, and we had to rush up to people and ask for their permission to use it.

https://www.vulture.com/2013/10/rom-com-king-richard-curtis-is-a-fool-for-love.html

 

[fireproof78]

It's relevant if you want your characters to behave and express love and affection like most human beings do.

This is from the opening scene of Love Actually but features actual footage of people at the arrivals gate of Heathrow Airport. Notice all the kissing and hugging?

Cool.

I see no relevance for me as an audience member. Others will vary.

 

[The Wormhole]

Star Trek is about the human condition. While they’re certainly not going to show a ton of sex on Star Trek (particularly as Trekkies exploded at its inclusion in an episode of Disco… between Klingons no less!), sex and romantic relationships are a pivotal part of the human condition. So one would to stand to gather that kissing is an important part of the human condition.

But to each their own.

I'm a Star Trek fan. Sex, romantic relationships and kissing aren't things I have experience with, therefore Star Trek would do well not to include them in its Illustrious Canon.

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[Campe]

I'm a Star Trek fan. Sex, romantic relationships and kissing aren't things I have experience with, therefore Star Trek would do well not to include them in its Illustrious Canon.

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I mean… um… I’ve met those Trek fans. But nope, never been one like that. Nope. Never. Didn’t happen. Can’t prove anything.

 

[Cyrus]

Sorry to sidetrack the kissing discussion but there is s new interview with Michelle Paradise about the season finale and season 5:
https://trekmovie.com/2022/03/18/in...whats-next-for-tilly-and-star-trek-discovery/

 

[Quinton]

Sorry to sidetrack the kissing discussion but there is s new interview with Michelle Paradise about the season finale and season 5:
https://trekmovie.com/2022/03/18/in...whats-next-for-tilly-and-star-trek-discovery/

Oops, sorry, I didn't notice this yet when I made a thread on it.

 

[fireproof78]

Sorry to sidetrack the kissing discussion but there is s new interview with Michelle Paradise about the season finale and season 5:
https://trekmovie.com/2022/03/18/in...whats-next-for-tilly-and-star-trek-discovery/

Meh. Double speak feeling on future plans. Glad it has plans for 5 and more.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I see no relevance for me as an audience member. Others will vary.

But that's not what you said. You said kissing had no relevance to the story (any story). You weren't just making a statement about your personal preference to look away from the screen when people are kissing, you were making a statement about the value of featuring kissing in stories at all. You just shifted goalposts later on when met with overwhelming opposition to your idea.

Which is part of what's so frustrating about the way you've been arguing with people recently in this and other threads. You'll take a kneejerk hyperbolic or contrarian stance, argue it for pages and pages always insisting on getting in the last word, shift the goalposts, and then say "to each their own" as if you were just expressing a personal preference the whole time.

 

[fireproof78]

But that's not what you said. You said kissing had no relevance to the story (any story). You weren't just making a statement about your personal preference to look away from the screen when people are kissing, you were making a statement about the value of featuring kissing in stories at all. You just shifted goalposts later on when met with overwhelming opposition to your idea.

Which is part of what's so frustrating about the way you've been arguing with people recently in this and other threads. You'll take a kneejerk hyperbolic or contrarian stance, argue it for pages and pages always insisting on getting in the last word, shift the goalposts, and then say "to each their own" as if you were just expressing a personal preference the whole time.

That's all I got, man. It's just my personal preference on entertainment, specifically Star Trek. Not a value statement on life.

 

[ananta]

Let’s all kiss and make up.

 

[fireproof78]

Let’s all kiss and make up.

Seems fair.

 

[shapeshifter]

Within this weeks RR, responding to Will's probing regarding season 5, Micheal Paradise mentioned 'its' or 'their' "stories" as if there are more than one.

Something about that and her body language seemed to imply she was giving a tiny bit more than she should have... Anyone else pick up on that, or am I reading into it too much?

 

[Cyrus]

The season finale episode had a dedication “for April with love”. Turns out it was dedicated to the long time producer April Nocifora who had been working on Trek shows since TNG:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeOkuda/status/1505248239443795970

 

[Tuskin38]

It's a bit cheesy, but I enjoyed this previously on. It would be neat though to see it redone to match Discovery's normal previously ons.

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[NCC-73515]

Discovery predicted by 70s comics!

 

[Kilana2]

Just returned from watching my first two Discovery episodes. I liked Burnham, but not those weird Klingons....