I didn't think it would happen this season, but it was inevitable.
I thought the same about the jump from the 23rd Century (my favorite era) but this season won me over.
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You people we have the MCU now we have the Burnhamverse 
bwawawawawawawa........ cackle cackle..
I still love Discovery warts and all.
But thinking about something this morning while in the shower. Something Q said at the end of TNG to Picard..
Q: You just don't get it, do you, Jean-Luc? The trial never ends. We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons. And for one brief moment, you did.
Picard: When I realized the paradox.
Q: Exactly. For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you had never considered. *That* is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence.
Q: You're not alone, you know. What you were, and what you will become, will always with you.
Picard: Are you saying that it worked? We collapsed the anomaly?
Q: Is that all this meant to you? Just another spatial anomaly, just another day at the office?
Picard: Did it work?
Q: Well, you're here, aren't you? You're talking to me, aren't you?
Picard: What about my crew?
Q: [scoffs] The anomaly, my ship, my crew; I suppose you're worried about your fish, too. If it puts your mind at ease - you've saved humanity, once again.
Q: Goodbye, Jean-Luc. I'm gonna miss you. You had such potential. But then again, all good things must come to an end.
The bolded part is what I think they are doing with Discovery and especially in season 3. Yes we have had lots of scenes where too much emotion is shown but this is the exploration Q was referring to, the various states of existence both real and existential. That is the future.
So that's how I view the last 3 seasons....
bwawawawawawawa........ cackle cackle..I still love Discovery warts and all.
But thinking about something this morning while in the shower. Something Q said at the end of TNG to Picard..
Q: You just don't get it, do you, Jean-Luc? The trial never ends. We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons. And for one brief moment, you did.
Picard: When I realized the paradox.
Q: Exactly. For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you had never considered. *That* is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence.
Q: You're not alone, you know. What you were, and what you will become, will always with you.
Picard: Are you saying that it worked? We collapsed the anomaly?
Q: Is that all this meant to you? Just another spatial anomaly, just another day at the office?
Picard: Did it work?
Q: Well, you're here, aren't you? You're talking to me, aren't you?
Picard: What about my crew?
Q: [scoffs] The anomaly, my ship, my crew; I suppose you're worried about your fish, too. If it puts your mind at ease - you've saved humanity, once again.
Q: Goodbye, Jean-Luc. I'm gonna miss you. You had such potential. But then again, all good things must come to an end.
The bolded part is what I think they are doing with Discovery and especially in season 3. Yes we have had lots of scenes where too much emotion is shown but this is the exploration Q was referring to, the various states of existence both real and existential. That is the future.
So that's how I view the last 3 seasons....
I don't agree.
IIRC,the plan was to show a character (Burnham) rising to the captaincy.
Yeah, that was definitely implied by Fuller and others in early interviews.
I give the 4th season a shot. But it is a thin margin.
It definitely has taken on that more anthology style that Fuller was thinking.
Yes this. You can successfully do a Trek show centered on a lower-rank character who isn't the captain (Lower Decks shows this) but if you insist it involves relatively large stakes, it's going to start stretching credulity after awhile.
One thing I liked about this season is they actually pointed out more concretely Michael's flaws - particularly earlier on in season in episodes like Unification III. One of the ways the back half was disappointing however is that stuff - along with any sort of Michael-centric character arc - just kind of vanished. She became confident again in her role in Starfleet, and started acting like Season 2 Michael again. I didn't really get any idea through the final three episodes how Michael's overcoming problems was showcasing character growth - partially because we've seen her do all of this before. She just fell comfortably back into hero mode.
Why is this a problem? Because if you're going to have a protagonist-focused show like Discovery, where every episode centers on the main character, you have have the character themselves always changing and growing. Otherwise you might as well give it up and make it an ensemble show.
Back to the Future is my favorite film trilogy. We get to see 1885, 1955, 1985, and 2015. I don't care what year they're in. I like the characters. Likewise with Discovery. I don't care if they're in the 23rd or 32nd Century. I like the characters.
And I figured Burnham would become Captain eventually. I just didn't know when. End of Season 3 works. Between her becoming Captain and the switch in uniforms (even though I'm not too crazy about them), it marks a shift in the series in a way that matters more to me than just the time-jump.
And I figured Burnham would become Captain eventually. I just didn't know when. End of Season 3 works. Between her becoming Captain and the switch in uniforms (even though I'm not too crazy about them), it marks a shift in the series in a way that matters more to me than just the time-jump.
Not a fan of the uniforms... They are ugly as all hell.
Hopefully they are only for ceremonies and functions.
Hopefully they are only for ceremonies and functions.
I prefer them to the current Discovery ones. Or more importantly I prefer the easy to see division colours
You people we have the MCU now we have the Burnhamverse
I still love Discovery warts and all.
But thinking about something this morning while in the shower. Something Q said at the end of TNG to Picard..
Q: You just don't get it, do you, Jean-Luc? The trial never ends. We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons. And for one brief moment, you did.
Picard: When I realized the paradox.
Q: Exactly. For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you had never considered. *That* is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence.
Q: You're not alone, you know. What you were, and what you will become, will always with you.
Picard: Are you saying that it worked? We collapsed the anomaly?
Q: Is that all this meant to you? Just another spatial anomaly, just another day at the office?
Picard: Did it work?
Q: Well, you're here, aren't you? You're talking to me, aren't you?
Picard: What about my crew?
Q: [scoffs] The anomaly, my ship, my crew; I suppose you're worried about your fish, too. If it puts your mind at ease - you've saved humanity, once again.
Q: Goodbye, Jean-Luc. I'm gonna miss you. You had such potential. But then again, all good things must come to an end.
The bolded part is what I think they are doing with Discovery and especially in season 3. Yes we have had lots of scenes where too much emotion is shown but this is the exploration Q was referring to, the various states of existence both real and existential. That is the future.
So that's how I view the last 3 seasons....
I love that scene. Great speech great acting and a great way to tie it all back to the start to end the show.
But I think saying DIS is exploring "the various states of existence both real and existential" because people are full on with he emotion is giving the show way too much credit
I think Discovery still has the same problems from previous seasons, the unearned emotional beats and big moments, the galaxy spanning stakes and the focus on Burnham are the big ones for me. The new setting was really the big strength of the season. I'm not so sure I'll tune into Season 4.
Season 4 might be more of an ensemble piece.
Michelle Paradise interview:
http://blog.trekcore.com/2021/01/star-trek-discovery-michelle-paradise-season-3-wrap-interviews/
Not surprising but good to know Vance and Book are in Season 4.
http://blog.trekcore.com/2021/01/star-trek-discovery-michelle-paradise-season-3-wrap-interviews/
Not surprising but good to know Vance and Book are in Season 4.
She said Calypso is canon. That might make a few heads explode.
She said Calypso is canon. That might make a few heads explode.
IOW, Short Treks is canon.
I honestly thought they'd tie "Calypso" into the third season.
I'm not going to try to figure out how the fourth or subsequent seasons figure into it. I'll just assume they'll get to it when they get to it. And when it looks like they're getting close, that's when I'll start speculating about it again.
They could string this out for years. And they probably will.
I'm not going to try to figure out how the fourth or subsequent seasons figure into it. I'll just assume they'll get to it when they get to it. And when it looks like they're getting close, that's when I'll start speculating about it again.
They could string this out for years. And they probably will.
I knew they wouldn't do that because they said they weren't going to do it.
Don't tell me that the ship exploding with tribbles is also canon... That was clearly a joke.
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