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Oh shit I'll have to edit my other post but found this ship chart

From Ex-Astris-Scientia

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Those numbers are wrong.

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The Enterprise is only 288m long, which scales all the other ships to much smaller then they listed.
 
Those numbers are wrong.

dsc-s2-promo-ent-status-display.jpg


The Enterprise is only 288m long, which scales all the other ships to much smaller then they listed.
Unfortunately, that graphic was created before They redid the size numbers and was it was never corrected because ... Money.
(also, it's pretty much a copy/paste from the Original Tech Manual)

The numbers from Eaglemoss are the corrected Official numbers given to them by CBS.
:shrug:
 
Unfortunately, that graphic was created before They redid the size numbers and was it was never corrected because ... Money.
(also, it's pretty much a copy/paste from the Original Tech Manual)

The numbers from Eaglemoss are the corrected Official numbers given to them by CBS.
:shrug:
That graphic was on screen in the show.

Which trumps everything else so far as canon is concerned.

So yea, the Eaglemoss stuff is just wrong.
 
That graphic was on screen in the show.

Which trumps everything else so far as canon is concerned.

However the graphic of the Enterprise contradicts the one they actually showed. For example it does not have the swept back warp nacelles. There have been so many instances where the group making the graphics, and the one making the vfx have not been on the same page.
 
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However the graphic of the Enterprise contradicts the one they actually showed. For example it does not have the swept back warp nacelles. There have been so many instances where the group making the graphics, and the one making the vfx have not been on the same page.
The canon length for the Constitution class from TOS was also 288 meters.

And given the VFX guys just had torpedo's shooting out of the ships nacelles, I am going to go with the named on screen length over some estimation by guys not really connected to the setting.
 
The canon length for the Constitution class from TOS was also 288 meters.

And given the VFX guys just had torpedo's shooting out of the ships nacelles, I am going to go with the named on screen length over some estimation by guys not really connected to the setting.
Yeah, that particular number was never actually STATED ONSCREEN..., EVER.
So YMMV.
Also, using where any of the weapons come from as a form of proof is more than very problematic, since we've seen that kinda thing since TOS with all of the SpFx's.
I'm personally not happy either with what They (CBS) have concluded are the Official sizes, but I don't make the show, I just enjoy it.
Again, YMMV.
:cool:
 
That graphic also has a crew complement of 430 (429 onboard), when on screen dialog explicitly states that 203 lifesigns are detected, which is the "entire complement".
 
That graphic also has a crew complement of 430 (429 onboard), when on screen dialog explicitly states that 203 lifesigns are detected, which is the "entire complement".
I guess They figured They might as well keep up the appearances of confusing the Hell out of Their viewing audience for the last 54 years.
:crazy:
 
I saw "the comedian" it dragged. It seemed like a ho-hum episode from the 80's run with a lot of profanity thrown in just to make sure watching it with your family is a non-option.

I thought it was about ten minutes too long. Though I didn't have any issues watching it with my wife and 11 year old son.
 
Honestly, if you've ever been to a night club, or just out at night in general, what you hear in that episode of The Twilight Zone is nothing. It's not "this is so fucking cool!" If you didn't hear lots of swearing and crude comments in that environment (jokes included!), or at least some, that would've been the weird situation, not the other way around.
 
That graphic also has a crew complement of 430 (429 onboard), when on screen dialog explicitly states that 203 lifesigns are detected, which is the "entire complement".

If they didn't have the "(429 onboard)," obviously excluding Spock, I would just chalk it up to 430 being the optimal, expected capacity of the Enterprise at launch (and achieved in Kirk's era), but the practicalities of Pike's mission, and perhaps his command style, greatly streamlined the crew to the bare necessity.

So, 203 is the "full complement" because their are 203 personnel assigned to the Enterprise. Whereas, 430 was the planned complement for the ship. But the graphic stating how many were onboard throws all of that out the window.
 
If they didn't have the "(429 onboard)," obviously excluding Spock, I would just chalk it up to 430 being the optimal, expected capacity of the Enterprise at launch (and achieved in Kirk's era), but the practicalities of Pike's mission, and perhaps his command style, greatly streamlined the crew to the bare necessity.

So, 203 is the "full complement" because their are 203 personnel assigned to the Enterprise. Whereas, 430 was the planned complement for the ship. But the graphic stating how many were onboard throws all of that out the window.
Maybe that graphic came from the Enterprise while all her systems were screwed up by the Holo-communications upgrade?
Something like could account for there being transmission errors.
That could also be why Pike's Full Star Fleet record was displayed on the bridge.
:shrug:
(which could also explain the size variations, but CBS says the ships are bigger now, so go figure)
 
Yeah, that particular number was never actually STATED ONSCREEN..., EVER.
So YMMV.
Also, using where any of the weapons come from as a form of proof is more than very problematic, since we've seen that kinda thing since TOS with all of the SpFx's.
I'm personally not happy either with what They (CBS) have concluded are the Official sizes, but I don't make the show, I just enjoy it.
Again, YMMV.
:cool:
As with many things, the length is subject to change :)
 
I like all the Mission Impossible movies but am partial to the final 3 and those are the ones I tend to rewatch.

Oddly the helicopter in the train tunnel really annoyed me in the 1st movie because I kept thinking how impossible that was.
 
That graphic also has a crew complement of 430 (429 onboard), when on screen dialog explicitly states that 203 lifesigns are detected, which is the "entire complement".
Dialog outweighs graphical information and graphical information outweighs random statement by graphics designers.

Star Trek doesn't really have a complex canon system guys.
 
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