Linus testing $20 SSD
they have their uses. I have one in my server. Originally booted ESXi after it became a pain with USB thumb drives and now boots ProMox. Doesn't need to do that much work and would have been a waste to put anything larger in.
I have an old Dell Precission T3400 which has one of those Quadro NVS cards, all nice and well but these are not fast so I used a OEM Geforce 315 which isn't much fasters so bummer, but a year or two ago a friend gave me a whole load of old graphic cards, old CPU's and SCSI cards, found that box again this afternoon and it contained a bag with a large card in it, turned out it was a Geforce 7900 GTO, now that thing is a quite a bit faster than the Quadro or the Geforce 315.
So it is still slow compared to modern machines but hey, Q6600, 8 GB RAM Geforce 7900 GTO and a 1 TB WD Black, would have been killer around 2007-2010.
Also, that Geforce 315 now resides inside a Dell Optiplex 745 which had a really slow and obsolete Radeon X1300 Pro.
So it is still slow compared to modern machines but hey, Q6600, 8 GB RAM Geforce 7900 GTO and a 1 TB WD Black, would have been killer around 2007-2010.
Also, that Geforce 315 now resides inside a Dell Optiplex 745 which had a really slow and obsolete Radeon X1300 Pro.
My brother needed a casing for installing a machine temporarily, which is a lot better than just connecting the whole thing up while it wobbles around on a table.
So I indeed found a casing and it wasn't empty..
at first I couldn't remember where I got that thing but I opened it and it is a relic from the time my friends and I had a LAN set up for gaming, Doom II, Redneck Rampage, Airfix, Mech Warrior 4 and above all Unreal Tournament 1999 GOTY edition Oh yurrrr!
So bad luck for my brother but a nice archeological find for me, so took it apart and cleaned it, casing is a very early Aopen H500 it is VERY yellow and the USB ports were ripped out and the little door broken, so I fabricated two brackets and mounted it directly to the casing so it has front USB and sound again, the little door I couldn't fix but hey, part of the charm I would say.
Must say that this casing is MUCH better built than most modern cases..
Mainboard, MSI K7T Turbo 2, all capacitors are okay, mostly Rubicons and the machine never had much burn hours to begin with, CPU is a Duron 700Mhz and it has 512MB RAM (whoohoo!)
Graphics card is the almighty Nvidia Geforce FX 5200, I've repasted the thing, the white goop had turned to dust and I wiggled the heatsink when I removed it, now has Arctic MX-4 TIM, haven't booted the machine but I think it has 128MB VideoRAM (boah!) Oh it's an AGP 8x card.
Gave the machine a new battery, not sure how old the one was that came with it but to be sure I dropped in a new CR-2032.
Drives, one antique PATA drive, think 80GB or 160GB, it's a Hitachi Deskstar, it has a 1.44MB floppy drive, an 800MB QiQ80 tapedrive
a 48speed CD-ROM and a CD -Burner.
Powersuply, had a really old Chieftec unit, I know where it came from and that it was bought in 2002 so I dropped in a slightly more recent powersuply which wasn't used much over the years, it is actually a Fortron Source built unit and it came with another Aopen casing.
No idea what OS is installed but I probably going to use Win2K on it, 98SE is nice and all but Win2K is a better choice, also I just love Win2K..
So I indeed found a casing and it wasn't empty..
at first I couldn't remember where I got that thing but I opened it and it is a relic from the time my friends and I had a LAN set up for gaming, Doom II, Redneck Rampage, Airfix, Mech Warrior 4 and above all Unreal Tournament 1999 GOTY edition Oh yurrrr! So bad luck for my brother but a nice archeological find for me, so took it apart and cleaned it, casing is a very early Aopen H500 it is VERY yellow and the USB ports were ripped out and the little door broken, so I fabricated two brackets and mounted it directly to the casing so it has front USB and sound again, the little door I couldn't fix but hey, part of the charm I would say.
Must say that this casing is MUCH better built than most modern cases..
Mainboard, MSI K7T Turbo 2, all capacitors are okay, mostly Rubicons and the machine never had much burn hours to begin with, CPU is a Duron 700Mhz and it has 512MB RAM (whoohoo!)
Graphics card is the almighty Nvidia Geforce FX 5200, I've repasted the thing, the white goop had turned to dust and I wiggled the heatsink when I removed it, now has Arctic MX-4 TIM, haven't booted the machine but I think it has 128MB VideoRAM (boah!) Oh it's an AGP 8x card.
Gave the machine a new battery, not sure how old the one was that came with it but to be sure I dropped in a new CR-2032.
Drives, one antique PATA drive, think 80GB or 160GB, it's a Hitachi Deskstar, it has a 1.44MB floppy drive, an 800MB QiQ80 tapedrive
a 48speed CD-ROM and a CD -Burner.Powersuply, had a really old Chieftec unit, I know where it came from and that it was bought in 2002 so I dropped in a slightly more recent powersuply which wasn't used much over the years, it is actually a Fortron Source built unit and it came with another Aopen casing.
No idea what OS is installed but I probably going to use Win2K on it, 98SE is nice and all but Win2K is a better choice, also I just love Win2K..
Anyone here have experience with APUs?
I've decided to swap out the CPU from my other computer for a Ryzen 52600G and remove the RX 580 GPU from that machine to make it a bit leaner on power consumption but what am I likely to miss out on in terms of performance? It's got 32gigs of ddr4 ram, 2tb main storage SSD main drive.
The original cpu was a plain vanilla 52600 cpu 2nd gen
I've decided to swap out the CPU from my other computer for a Ryzen 52600G and remove the RX 580 GPU from that machine to make it a bit leaner on power consumption but what am I likely to miss out on in terms of performance? It's got 32gigs of ddr4 ram, 2tb main storage SSD main drive.
The original cpu was a plain vanilla 52600 cpu 2nd gen
you know there are websites that actually publish this sort of information.
google really isn't that hard to use.
Yes I do...... But was hoping someone here had practical experience with them
Nope, I have a Pentium G6400 and the on chip gfx card of that one is office, youtube etc capable but not more, as for my R3 2200G eh, never tried to game on it, it is at the moment running Linux.
Oeh! I found a 133 Mhz 128MB dimm, same brand as the two dimms already inside that old Duron 700, so it now has 640MB RAM.
Oeh! I found a 133 Mhz 128MB dimm, same brand as the two dimms already inside that old Duron 700, so it now has 640MB RAM.
An amount of ram that nobody realistically expect to ever put in a Duron system
nor would you put an equivalent amount into a consumer desktop. I suppose that with 640GB of ram you'd have a lot more addresses spaces to deal with but you'd also expect that modern processor could deal with that.
Changes to memory controllers, going on die, SoCs and the like could be a factor as well.
Plus protecting the higher end line processors (for example the Xeons) by artificially capping the amount of memory that can addressed by the Core series processors.
Megabyte, it has 640 Megabyte, the mainboard can address 1.5GB max but back when that machine was used for LAN gaming it had 512 MB RAM which was about normal, the machine is 32 bit so it can address 4GB only.
My first AMD 64 machine had 2GB RAM and ran Win2K, after that a few machines with 4GB , my Phenom II machines had either 4GB or 8GB, my FX 8350 has 8GB as have my Linux machines, my current gaming rig has 24GB RAM.
Modern CPU's can address between 1TB and 256TB and AMD wants to extend that to 4 PetaByte which is an awful lot of memory.
My first AMD 64 machine had 2GB RAM and ran Win2K, after that a few machines with 4GB , my Phenom II machines had either 4GB or 8GB, my FX 8350 has 8GB as have my Linux machines, my current gaming rig has 24GB RAM.
Modern CPU's can address between 1TB and 256TB and AMD wants to extend that to 4 PetaByte which is an awful lot of memory.
I know - I was adjusting for scale seeing as we now have to deal in Gigabytes.
Modern CPUs might be able to address that much memory in theory but in practice it's another matter and while motherboard sizes and memory modules can be factor the processors themselves are limited.
For example Intel's latest top of the range 12th Gen i9 will only support 128GB, Anything more and from intel you're into the Xeon range.
Thought I was done with the old Duron 700, cleaned, repasted, repaired and upgraded, closed the casing and then I remembered that I should have more Duron chips..
So I checked my pile of old CPU's and YES!! I have two more, 800 and 850Mhz, of course I went for the 850.
I also discovered that when motivated I can disassemble and reassemble machines VERY quickly, remove, cables, plugs and mainboard, very, very carefully remove the cooler, Durons do NOT have a heatspreader to protect the die, clean CPU,clean cooler, take out CPU and the reverse the whole process with the 850Mhz chip, took me less than 15 minutes.
Gathering all kinds of stuff for Win2k, programs, drivers, utils.. blast to the past with this machine.
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Just switched it on and it works, had to setup the BIOS again but otherwise it just works.
So I checked my pile of old CPU's and YES!! I have two more, 800 and 850Mhz, of course I went for the 850.
I also discovered that when motivated I can disassemble and reassemble machines VERY quickly, remove, cables, plugs and mainboard, very, very carefully remove the cooler, Durons do NOT have a heatspreader to protect the die, clean CPU,clean cooler, take out CPU and the reverse the whole process with the 850Mhz chip, took me less than 15 minutes.
Gathering all kinds of stuff for Win2k, programs, drivers, utils.. blast to the past with this machine.
*edit*
Just switched it on and it works, had to setup the BIOS again but otherwise it just works.
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Man, all this talk of Ram really makes me wish I had more. My current PC only has 8GB and I can really feel it at times, what with programs wanting more and more these days as the requirements go up. I'm way over due for an upgrade as I have to replace everything at this point, but both cryptomining and Covid have made getting what's needed much harder.
What programs do you find it noticable?
Are you running from a SSD or spinning rust?
8GB should give decent performance and I'd be looking at your mass storage.
I'm runnining from my Surface Pro atm with is an i5 with 8GB and not finding it sluggish. Have open Firefox with about 8 tabs open, Outlook, excel (haven't bothered to close it from earlier), some ssh sessions, Plex Media Server and plex.
Ooh Surface pro.. Nice.
