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Gene Roddenbury's Vision Is Probably Not Realistic Enough to Be in Our Future

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I don't understand the hero worship of classic Vulcans. Vulcans in TOS were arrogant, prejudiced and petty, using logic to justify it. Spock was the ideal, noble Vulcan who we all look up to. And he wasn't even full Vulcan. :vulcan:

Edit: @BillJ and @Nerys Myk already said it. :techman:

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Perhaps we need to be more like Spock, or Surak then. Developing our mental abilities and controlling our emotions are steps in the right direction.
 
It's interesting, but it's a very lofty goal and paved with wishful thinking. I liked TOS (favorite show) and TNG for what it brought to the table, but ultimately their vision of the future (though not perfect, like in the other thread I made, I discovered) is not going to happen.

I think what separates human beings in Roddenberry's fictional future and our present is technology.

For the whole history of humanity, we squabbled over resources. Even today, although there are enough resources to go around, it's hard to ignore the idea that elevating people in one part of the world necessarily takes from others until we reach a kind of equilibrium. That dynamic doesn't exist in Star Trek. The costs of sharing, of helping, of being noble perfect people, are all mitigated by technologies that produce anything.

And I do think we'll get there.

Developments in solar technology, for example, are already well on the way to making energy costs almost obsolete. Energy for transport; energy for climate control; energy for the operation of factories and machinery and automatic production...

That's the first step.

Consider how much of the world's economy today is spent on energy and/or the acquisition and protection of energy-yielding resources. When we pass the point at which we can harness energy almost freely, we'll have eliminated an enormous reason for conflict. We'll also have eliminated a large fraction of commodity costs, lowering the expense of creating new and maintaining existing high standards of living.

We can achieve that balance, and create the paradise in which -- as Commander Sisko opined once -- it's easy for human beings to behave saintly.
 
I don't understand the hero worship of classic Vulcans. Vulcans in TOS were arrogant, prejudiced and petty, using logic to justify it.

The Humans in "Trek" were not any better. Not really. I think the Humans were arrogant and prejudiced in a different way.

And that is the problem with Roddenberry's vision and the Trek franchise in general. It feeds our species' penchant for harboring illusions about ourselves.
 
You're being overly pessimistic. The real world will not look like Trek's because of technological reasons, but we should try to pursue the spirit of the Trek world and develop something similar to it in that regard. As uncivilized as our world is today, it's a utopia compared to many of our worlds of the past, and I hope that we can look toward a future that the locals might whine about but that is to us a paradise. I for one will do what I can to leave the world however modestly a better place than I found it, and may the cards fall where they may. "Don't let the bastards get you down."
 
The gristle to the mill, for me, is that the Mirror Universe feels more aligned with human history -- and our current part in it -- as a postulation of our human future. So, I believe, if we exist in Star Trek's past at all, we are the past of the Mirror timeline. ;)

That being said, Roddenberry was smart enough to lay out that we went through a couple of holocausts before we got to his enlightened future, so there's leeway there. :D
 
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