Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season
- Thread starter The Nth Doctor
- Start date
To save the world. From Dany.
He's Azor Ahai. The Prince Who Was Promised. We just misunderstood the threat the prophecy was referring to. Not the Night's King or the walkers at all. But the Mother of Dragons.
Maybe it's just me that's annoyed, but these people really can't count. It's still the Seven Kingdoms.
Riverlands
Vale
Westlands
Iron Islands
Reach
Stormlands
Dorne
It was only the Seven Kingdoms under Targaryen rule because at Aegon's Conquest the Riverlands were ruled by the Ironborn as the Kings of the Isles and Rivers. It should still be the Seven Kingdoms.
Riverlands
Vale
Westlands
Iron Islands
Reach
Stormlands
Dorne
It was only the Seven Kingdoms under Targaryen rule because at Aegon's Conquest the Riverlands were ruled by the Ironborn as the Kings of the Isles and Rivers. It should still be the Seven Kingdoms.
Ain't that the truth. That huge black banner draped over the castle shouted fascist nut job. It was still chilling. At that point, with Drogon, the Unsullied and the Dothraki, she looked almost all powerful.
Still, so many missed opportunities all over. It did seem rushed. I thought there might be, or should have been, a lot of tension and suspense. Especially a showdown with Sansa. Daenerys being heavily guarded. No one can get to her. Arya is walking around in assassin mode.
Her explanation for what she did seemed so short. I thought it would have been the grand masterpiece of explanations. With some logic, insane rambling, political BS, everything.
Something like "I did it for Missandei, Ser Mormont, my two dragons, my brother (though an idiot) who begged so we could survive" "who are you hypocrites to judge me?", things like that.
Idk, it was an awkward finale. Maybe it takes some getting used to.
Last edited:
It appears that the God of Light arranged for Jon to be resurrected so that he could unite the forces to defeat the Night King. Jon is the only one who could've done that. Without those forces, the Night King might well have won quickly enough that Arya wouldn't have had time to figure out what she needed to do or have time to do it!
I thought this NYTimes review was very even handed in its praise and criticisms:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/arts/television/game-of-thrones-series-finale-recap.html
This paragraph perfectly matches my feelings of the series:
I will always admire “Game of Thrones” and never forget the wonder of its most provocative moments — Hardhome, Hodor, the Red Wedding, Cersei’s coup, Arya’s killing of the Night King — and the beauty of its quieter ones. I was frequently astounded that such stunning and audacious artistry could be delivered into my living room.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/arts/television/game-of-thrones-series-finale-recap.html
This paragraph perfectly matches my feelings of the series:
I will always admire “Game of Thrones” and never forget the wonder of its most provocative moments — Hardhome, Hodor, the Red Wedding, Cersei’s coup, Arya’s killing of the Night King — and the beauty of its quieter ones. I was frequently astounded that such stunning and audacious artistry could be delivered into my living room.
I agree with the story feeling rushed. I also agree with posters who feel that we lost something once the book material was exhausted. But Dany rambling like that would have been out of character--she still believed she was the breaker of chains and she genuinely believed that she had liberated a people even though she massacred everyone in the city. Even though we saw what her actions were, she was blind to it. A tragic flaw. Her story was very Shakespearean, which I believe was Martin's intent.
On another topic, earlier in the thread I expressed a disappointment for Emilia Clark's acting performance this season. After the final three episodes of the season, I take that back. She had some really stunning moments and I loved her in her final scene with Jon.
Last edited:
My final score for the Wiki of Thrones Death Pool was 191st position out of 21049 contestants, so I ended up in the top 1%. My final score was 217, the winner’s score was 265.
I get seriously disappointed when a very viable plot device exists to solve a pressing conflict in a story, but it's not leveraged. Like imagine the age-old giant scorpion crossbow used against dragons not employed against ships. Euron did use them, to great effect, decimating so many ships with them. Not using them for that purpose is exactly what I'm talking about.
All that Winterfell needed to do was set up several of those scorpion crossbows, loaded with dragon glass tipped projectiles, and simply aim for the Night King. We saw how fast the bolts travel. Just one shot would've taken out the Night King and caused all the zombies to collapse into heaps of broken ice. They could have at least attempted it and then have it foiled in some manner to keep the story going (e.g. the Night King sees one of his leader wights get taken out, realizes the danger, then has zombies swarm the scorpion emplacements). And in kind, it could've been an alternative to Arya. Jon Snow mans one of the last scorpions as the white walker hoard swarms around his emplacement, zombies trying to climb up. Then he sees the Night King off in the distance, watching. Takes very careful, steady aim... then fires--the bolt impaling the Night King in the thigh, pinned to his horse. The Night King looks down at it, looks up like he's not phased, but then... something starts to happen. He gets this WTF look on his face as his body begins to cascade shatter all the way up to his head and he's gone.
Not for no reason.
It implied heavily in the series and stated outright in the books that madness runs in the targ bloodline due to inbreeding.
The mad king started off sane aswell.
Chances are Jon will go nuts aswell and become the next nights king.
Last edited:
True and I noticed how odd she came off in beginning of the finale. There was something off about her. I know everyone is saying there were signs all along pointing to this, but the scene felt odd.
My thought now is, might as well go with the story as it is, considering it's too late to re-do the storyline now.
Let her have her explanation, she can ramble about being the destined "breaker of chains" and "liberator of the world". (she tends to go off in her own world when she does that)
And then mix it with a lot of logic, such as "did you show mercy to children too, Jon?!" "I've never strangled my lover, Tyrion!" or "how many times did you see slavery and try to stop it?"
I'm thinking a long harsh explanation of what she did, half right half wrong that might had saved the episode. Or made it water cooler talk the next day.
So I just watched the series finale...
I'm honestly lost for words.
When they had the GRRM source material to adapt, this was the best show on TV and possibly heading for GOAT status.
As soon as they started writing the story themselves it went downhill and we are talking everest style.
The final season was meme of thrones
I think so many people were so invested, and we all loved the characters and setting, that they are struggling to accept how badly the quality dipped.
And the thing is, it wasn't hard, they could have wrapped this up in a satisfying way so easily, but no. They want to "subvert expectation" which that's just a meme in itself by now.
Starbucks Coffee cups, Jamie and cerise dying by like 20 bricks falling on them and they could have walked a couple of feet to their left and survived, Jon going to the NW who now have nothing to do but chill out at the wall and get drunk.
They took an extra year to give us the worst season of the entire series.
I'm honestly lost for words.
When they had the GRRM source material to adapt, this was the best show on TV and possibly heading for GOAT status.
As soon as they started writing the story themselves it went downhill and we are talking everest style.
The final season was meme of thrones
I think so many people were so invested, and we all loved the characters and setting, that they are struggling to accept how badly the quality dipped.
And the thing is, it wasn't hard, they could have wrapped this up in a satisfying way so easily, but no. They want to "subvert expectation" which that's just a meme in itself by now.
Starbucks Coffee cups, Jamie and cerise dying by like 20 bricks falling on them and they could have walked a couple of feet to their left and survived, Jon going to the NW who now have nothing to do but chill out at the wall and get drunk.
They took an extra year to give us the worst season of the entire series.
How is a Starbucks cup much different that a car in the background of a scene in Lord of the Rings? Or contrails in Mad Max? These little mishaps happen in movies.
Just a note about the Night Watch. They still have quite a bit to do. They weren't just guarding against Wildlings and Others for a thousand years. The Others aren't gone just because the Night King has died, at least they are not gone permanently. They have an entire section of wall to rebuild in the next few centuries. They also have an important diplomatic mission to work with the Wildlings and also to be on guard for any other threats that come from the North.
The problem with the season wasn't a coffee cup but it's a microcosm of the dramatic decline in quality
And that's my main problem with how Daenerys was treated by a considerable part of the audience all along. If you look at what she's done before The Bells, it was ultimately no different from what other villains like Tywin Lannister would've done in her place. She was excessively cruel alright, but always deliberately so and it had a consistent internal logic tied to her misguided sense of justice. And I'm even including her execution of the Tarlys here. They refused to bend the knee and she had every right to execute them, and I'm convinced Tywin or the others would've done the same. In fact, I think Tywin would've had them murdered after they bent the knee because that's the only way to be sure and huge parts of the audience would've cheered him for it because he was just such a cool villain. But for some reason, when it comes to Daenerys, people kept looking for madness in every crime she committed, every time she had a temper and every single decision that made no sense for them, because they knew she was a Targaryen and Targaryens are mad. She was just never given the chance to actually be a proper villain.
Similar threads
