Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season
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IIRC the Free Cities are mostly oligarchic republics (analogous to Venice) so the idea of non-monarchical government is not unknown to Westeros.
I'm really anxious for tonight's episode. We'll know if our speculation and the rumors about the end are true.
Oh man! Will GOT end on a high note, or will it sink to the bottom? I've been mentally preparing to place it alongside Lost, True Blood, Dexter and NuBSG for over a year now.
Oh man! Will GOT end on a high note, or will it sink to the bottom? I've been mentally preparing to place it alongside Lost, True Blood, Dexter and NuBSG for over a year now.
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While that would be a satisfying ending emotionally, it doesn't ring true to me. Gendry does not have a strong political base to draw support on. He also seems politically naïve. He would not last long on the throne until someone came and took it away. Don't get me wrong though, the idea is nice.
Personally, for an ending in a similar vein that seems more "realistic," how about Sansa as Queen and Tyrion as her hand, or King if they get remarried? They could build on the support of the Stark base and the Lannister base. They also have a fair bit of political skill between the two of them and they both generally seem to be on the same page politically.
Officially it’s still not the Lannister’s in power, right?
Cersei has the throne on the Baratheon ticket, right?
Cersei has the throne on the Baratheon ticket, right?
Even if that's true, the Baratheon claim was not legitimate. The thing to remember is that having a legitimate claim only helps but is not definitive. A legitimate claim is not sufficient, nor is it even required. It's one of the factors that goes into the mix along with the ability to put together a winning coalition with sufficient power to enforce the claim.
Many of the noble houses have been destroyed. Of those surviving, I'd guess that the Starks and the Lannisters are at the top. Bringing those two houses together could produce the winning ticket.
Many of the noble houses have been destroyed. Of those surviving, I'd guess that the Starks and the Lannisters are at the top. Bringing those two houses together could produce the winning ticket.
I don’t see why the Baratheon claim was not legitimate. Before the Rebellion, Robert would have been next in line after Daenerys. There was a good reason why Robert took the throne and not a Stark, a Lannister or an Arryn. However this is not explained in the show.
That's a good point. I had forgotten that he was Aerys' first cousin once removed (yeah, I had to look up the exact relation beyond cousins).
It's not a legitimate claim because they're overthrowing the Targaryen dynasty through treason. It muddles things significantly.
This episode was titled "Dracarys", Dragon Fire. They should've called this episode "Culling the Herd". Cheese and Fries! I hate what D&D did here and I hate knowing the spoilers for this season were 100% accurate so far.
Sigh...
Welcome to the disappointing final season club, GoT. You join Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Dexter, True Blood and others. You're in good (well, bad) company at least.
Sigh...
Welcome to the disappointing final season club, GoT. You join Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Dexter, True Blood and others. You're in good (well, bad) company at least.
That was a shitty shitty ending.
I must say, I expected Dany to go full on Mad Queen but I thought it’d take more.
So now comes the whining and people who are somehow shocked after all we saw things didn’t all end nicely.
So now comes the whining and people who are somehow shocked after all we saw things didn’t all end nicely.
I reckon Daenerys will go after Sansa next.
Probably. I was sad at the end Arya didn’t mutter... “Danaerys Targaryen”
Anyway,
Brace yourself. Whine-ter is coming.
Brace yourself. Whine-ter is coming.
I would say Robert won it through conquest just like Aegon did 300 years before. It’s not like Aegon the Conqueror had a legitimate claim to Westeros when he invaded.
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