Game Of Thrones Season 6 Discussion (Spoilers)

[Thomas L]

I just realized who that Frey reminds me of: Baldrick from Blackadder.

Maybe the other Frey. I had a similar vibe.

on the topic of sitcoms, am I the only one who thought that when the Tyrel army marched into kings landing and lord Tyrel gives a speech to the troops that he came across incredibly like Capt Mainwaring?

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think Queenie is smarter than Cersei .

 

[Captaindemotion]

on the topic of sitcoms, am I the only one who thought that when the Tyrel army marched into kings landing and lord Tyrel gives a speech to the troops that he came across incredibly like Capt Mainwaring?

He even looks like him.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I was expecting him to come out with "Stupid boy" in response to Tommen's speech.

 

[theenglish]

Arya should be dead already of septicaemia/peritonitis as I assume Milk of the Poppy is an analgesic and not an antibiotic.

It seems to be magic morphine. We are never really given a true explanation of what it does but it seems to do more than just put someone to sleep for a while but people don't magically recover from mortal wounds just by taking it--perhaps it has some magical healing properties but it's no game changing D&D potion.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I would accept it more as a plot device if, say, it were know to have permanent and unpredictable effects on the psyche of the person receiving it. That might provide a better explanation than fear of addiction for why some people refuse it.

 

[theenglish]

I would accept it more as a plot device if, say, it were know to have permanent and unpredictable effects on the psyche of the person receiving it. That might provide a better explanation than fear of addiction for why some people refuse it.

People seem to refuse it because it knocks you out for too long. People have refused it mainly on the grounds that they need to be conscious for whatever reason.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Ive always just assumed it's opium/heroin. A painkiller, not a healer.

 

[theenglish]

Ive always just assumed it's opium/heroin. A painkiller, not a healer.

That's interesting--I always though it had restorative properties--I am going to look it up this evening.

 

[Roshi]

This medical rationalization is kinda pointless in a world of fire breathing dragons, ice zombies and resurrected characters.
My suspension of disbelief tells me her wounds were serious but not life threatening.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Here's what the ASOIAF wiki page says: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Milk_of_the_poppy

Milk of the poppy is used as a pain killer or anesthetic in the Known World. It is normally given to those mortally wounded or in great pain. It has a quick effect of causing sleep, even for people in great pain.[3][4][5] During this sleep, people often have strange "poppy dreams".[5][6][7][8] Milk of the poppy also has an incapacitating effect, "filling your head with clouds",[9] even after the user has woken from sleep.[6] Because of this, and possibly because it is also addictive or because overuse causes tolerance,[10] some prefer to go through strong pain instead of consuming it.[5][11][12][8] Overuse of milk of the poppy may make the user's face become puffy.

Sounds like heroin to me.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Indeed. And not terribly magical.

 

[Cyrus]

I always assumed it is something that comes from Poppy seeds, so it is an opium based pain killer.

 

[Vandervecken]

What a gyp on Arya. I wanted to see her kick the Waif's butt! Even though yah technically they had to be in total darkness but hell movies and tv have been showing us stuff going on in total darkness for years. And Arya's story was becoming my favorite! Arg!

But hell is Arya a mutant or something? She comes back and comes back FAST from all those stab wounds, and then is running and jumping from heights doing stunts? WTF? If she had been doped on opium she wouldn't have been even remotely capable of doing that stuff, so there was nothing for the pain (and it isn't like killing pain will make muscles work that have been sliced, or help with blood loss).

After such a long absence from Edmure Tully, Tobias Menzies has become the cruel "Black Jack" Randall in Outlander in my eyes (at least in the first season; I stopped after that), so it was a bit strange to see Menzies act meekly. But when he strolled into Riverrun Castle, suddenly he was Black Jack again.

He's always Brutus to me.

 

[Forbin]

This medical rationalization is kinda pointless in a world of fire breathing dragons, ice zombies and resurrected characters.
My suspension of disbelief tells me her wounds were serious but not life threatening.

I might have been able to suspend if I hadn't seen a 6" blade plunged into her intestines twice, and given a good twist. Even today that would require major surgery to fix up. Just putting a bandage on it doesn't do anything for the internal slicing.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

In our world, my understanding is that she would likely spend 10 hours or so in emergency surgery, a week in intensive care, and the rest of her days having to use colostomy bags and/or watching her diet due to having lost several feet of bowel and small intestine in patching her up. In medieval GoT world, she should be dead in short order as the bacterial contents of her ruptured bowels infect her abdominal cavity.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's a tv show.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

No, it isn't! It's real, damnit!

After such a long absence from Edmure Tully, Tobias Menzies has become the cruel "Black Jack" Randall in Outlander in my eyes (at least in the first season; I stopped after that), so it was a bit strange to see Menzies act meekly. But when he strolled into Riverrun Castle, suddenly he was Black Jack again.

He's always Brutus to me.

Heh, fair enough. Rome was the second place I saw him because I didn't see Rome until years after it ended.

 

[Brolan]

In our world, my understanding is that she would likely spend 10 hours or so in emergency surgery, a week in intensive care, and the rest of her days having to use colostomy bags and/or watching her diet due to having lost several feet of bowel and small intestine in patching her up. In medieval GoT world, she should be dead in short order as the bacterial contents of her ruptured bowels infect her abdominal cavity.

In our world Jon Snow would have been dead, and stayed that way.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Yes and that changed because of magic.

Arya's condition was dealt with a medicine that had previously been established as merely a painkiller with no magical qualities. Big difference.