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Game Of Thrones Season 5 TV Only Discussion (Spoilers)

I think you're asking what real UK locations the various character accents are taken from? Sorry to be pedantic but you're using the words actor and character interchangeably, when the actors are not necessarily using their native accent for their role.

[edit]for example Kit Harington is putting on something Yorkshire-ish to match Sean Bean, but he's actually from London.
 
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Out of curiosity, is "York" and "Yorkshire" the same thing, as in northern England, or are they two completely different locations?
 
The accents in GOT don't really stand up to being matched with regional accents in the UK or Ireland.

For example, Ned & Robb Stark and Jon Snow do sound appropriately northern, with what sound like Yorkshire accents to me. (Bean used his own accent, Madden is Scottish and Harington from London). However, Bran and the girls have more sort of 'received pronunciation' - ie posh - accents, as did Catlyn (the actress is from the north of Ireland). This could possibly be because Catlyn is a Tully and from a different part of Westeros.

Most of the Winterfell staff also sounded northern as did the Karstarks and Umbers. However, despite being supposedly bannermen to the Starks, the Boltons sound posher. Possibly because Michael McElhatton (Roose) is from Ireland and toning down his accent just as Iwan Rheon (Ramsay) is toning down his Welsh accent

Alfie Allen is from London but also adopted a northern accent, which makes sense if he grew up with the Starks. However, while most other Ironborn sounded like him, Patrick Malahide played Balon with an RP accent.

Robert and Stannis Baratheon have quite northern-sounding accents but their brother Renly sounded much more RP to my ears. This is perhaps because the brothers were largely brought up separately and was also perhaps deliberate, to emphasise how he was different from his siblings.

Arguably the wildlings should've had Scottish accents (as the Wall was inspired by Hadrians wall) but they largely sound like the other northerners. Ciaran Hinds is from Belfast but puts on a northern English accent. The actor playing Thormun is Scandinavian; some of the northern Scottish Islands do have a Scandinavian influence.


While Kings Landing is supposedly far south of the north, some of its denizens such as Janos Flynt and Davos Seaworth have northern accents (Liam Cunningham is from Dublin but has adopted a Newcastle accent). Then you have Aidan Gillen, who does a really dodgy Irish accent, despite being Irish and sounding genuinely Irish in all other roles. I can only assume that this is to emphasise Littlefinger's chameleon character and the fact that he doesn't really belong anywhere.

That's before you even consider how people who weren't born on this side of the narrow sea, such as Varys, Daario and Thoros sound largely the same as those who were.
 
And frankly it all just sounds either "English" "Scottish" or "Irish" to my American ears. I'm not all that discerning.
 
I admit I have read the books, but well this season steers into as of yet unpublished material and many other parts diverge.
I'm a bit sad that they skipped a large part of Sansa's plot ont he Eyrie, mainly because the Eyrie is such a beautiful place and I would have liked to see it more often/more of it. On the positive side we got to ditch Robin sooner and the plot on the Eyrie was not particularly compelling in the books.

I nearly reacted just like Sansa when it became clear that Littlefinger was going to marry her to Ramsay.
I love Ramsay, I love Sansa, but I don't want them together (mainly for Sansa's sake) I'm afraid a Bolton controlled Winterfell will be worse for her than Season 2 King's Landing.

-What was the point of turning Arya away the first time? It seemed for a second like he was administering the Fight Club test, which she then would have failed. Then randomly a day later he comes and gathers her. Was he just trying to see if she had the murderous temperament or something?

As someone who flat out refuses to watch that movie, could you enlighten me what the "Fight Club test" is?
Personally I think he wanted her to get a(another) taste of hopelessness and street urchin life to see if she'd give up. I'm not fond of the guy, his "a man a girl" babbling annoys me to no end.
Arya as she is now is not very good assassin material. Could you see her killing somebody she deems innocent for money?
I think she is now in the position Jon Snow was in season 1 when he realized that the Night's Watch wasn't the heroic, honourable bunch he idolized them as.
 
Aspirants to the Fight Club who come to their "headquarters" were kept out on the front porch for days, enduring ridicule and other forms of abuse, both verbal and physical. People who were not worthy of initiation eventually gave up and walked away. People who really wanted it stuck it out, regardless of what was said or done to them, weather conditions, etc. I think, after the 3rd or 4th day, they were let in. This guaranteed a dedicated core membership who would do anything for their leader. Truly, a cult in the purest sense.
 
My favorite line this week was Margery to Cersei: "Would you like something to drink? We don't have any wine, it's a little early in the day for us."
Meow! :lol:

Yeah, that scene was just so brilliant. GoT does the "watch between the lines" scenes so well that you can do nothing but cringe and smile at so many rapid insults and barbs that you can't count them all :lol:
 
I was a little disappointed when they used the same actor for the faceless assassin. It seemed at the end of season 2 that he was giving up that face forever as now it was marked. I guess that's one of the necessities of writing for screen, that no matter what your plans were if an actor taps into something you have to keep them. That's why Varys is with Tyrion and a sudden humanitarian idealist.

It's pretty clear Arya has no intention of not being Arya anymore. She was almost willing to give up Arya's sword but she will NEVER give up Arya's list. She's trying to tell them what they want to hear to get assassin lessons.

Margery's handling of Cersei is beautiful. "What is your title now? Is it the Queen Mother, or the Dowager Queen?"

Sometimes in GoT I like the parts that don't move the story along more than the parts that do. Like how right before Joffrey died he had the dwarfs act out the 'Battle of five kings' to gloat about Robb's death, and while he was enjoying himself everybody else was visibly disgusted.
 
I was a little disappointed when they used the same actor for the faceless assassin. It seemed at the end of season 2 that he was giving up that face forever as now it was marked. I guess that's one of the necessities of writing for screen, that no matter what your plans were if an actor taps into something you have to keep them.

If you remember the fact he turned into at the end of season 2 - that actor is a fairly well-known stage actor in Belfast. I read an interview with him a couple of years ago where he hinted that he might be back in the role when the character returned. This could've been just typical actor BS or maybe they did plan to bring him back. But I suppose using him wouldn't have provoked the same 'oh it's YOU' reaction from Arya and the audience.
 
It contributes to a bit of a small world effect though unfortunately. I sincerely hope they reveal that he isn't in fact the same man and that that this particular person simply adopted the face to put Arya at ease for her first stage of training.
 
Re the accent issue: Kit Harington was on Graham Norton's chat show tonight and said that he was asked to read for GOT in his RP accent. But then the producers asked Sean Bean, who they'd headhunted for Ned, if he could do an RP accent. 'And he went (puts on Yorkshire accent) "Noa.'" So Kit spent the next few weeks watching all of Sean's myriad advertisements to imitate his accent.
 
Finally all caught up, I am thoroughly enjoying this season. Lots of my favorite people and less of my less liked ones.

Very worried for Sansa!

I keep wishing for Cersei to ultimately triumph because she's full of such an awful determination about everything.

I'm pretty pleased with the deviations from the books at this point.
 
Did Sir Barristen and Grey Worm die in that scene or did they just pass out very badly injured? It wasn't completely clear.
 
He took a hit or two to the side and one to the shoulder. Nothing necessarily fatal, but they showed quite a lot of blood under him in that last shot.
 
Did Sir Barristen and Grey Worm die in that scene or did they just pass out very badly injured? It wasn't completely clear.

I think that's the point of the cliff-hanger. :p

This interview answers your question however:

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/01/ser-barristan-dead-thrones
 
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Did Sir Barristen and Grey Worm die in that scene or did they just pass out very badly injured? It wasn't completely clear.

Must've been a badly executed cliffhanger for it not to be obvious to everyone--you aren't supposed to know yet. Gotta wait until next week!
 
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