Future of Paramount+ among merger talks

[James Cole]

Uh huh...still better run and less behind the scenes drama than TNG up through the start of it's 4th season.

Guess Gene Roddenberry was a terrible executive producer too...oh, wait...

The instability effectively ended when Rick Berman and Maurice Hurley took over around "Coming of Age" in season 1. At best you can say they got the season 2 budget wrong having 22 instead of 26 episodes, leading to "Shades of Grey". So both the scale and length of time are different.

 

[Noname Given]

The instability effectively ended when Rick Berman and Maurice Hurley took over around "Coming of Age" in season 1. At best you can say they got the season 2 budget wrong having 22 instead of 26 episodes, leading to "Shades of Grey". So both the scale and length of time are different.

Go watch Chaos On The Bridge. A documentary that interviewed those directly involved in and on the production staff during those years. They even split a single salary between two female writers

Best of Both Worlds was written the way it was because at the time, the entire current writing staff didn't think they would be back for Season 4 - and there was a board that listed all the staff changes (read 'revolving door') in someone's office through the 3rd season.

 

[James Cole]

Go watch Chaos On The Bridge. A documentary that interviewed those directly involved in and on the production staff during those years. They even split a single salary between two female writers

I've seen it. TNG never shut down production mid season, nor reshot multiple episodes.

 

[Noname Given]

I've seen it. TNG never shut down production mid season, nor reshot multiple episodes.

No, it shutdown for the 1988 WGA strike and was almost cancelled.

And which episodes of Discovery, Picard, or Strange New Worlds were reshot?

Some were re-written while in production but that was nothing new for the Star Trek franchise going all the way back to TOS and including TNG.

 

[Char Kais]

$15 billion Offer to Buy Paramount From Rising Partners Could Derail Skydances $8 Billion deal to Buy Paramont, Changing the Fate of Star Trek

Paramount Hit With Legal Letter to Consider Last-Minute $13.5 Billion Offer From Outside Investors Over Skydance Bid (EXCLUSIVE)

Paramount Global has rejected a last-minute counteroffer from Project Rise Partners, saying 'there will not be any engagement' on the investors' bid.

variety.com

Those investors have largely remained mysterious outside of Daphna Edwards Ziman ... But sources say Project Rise Partners is also backed by titans of industry comparable to Larry Ellison and includes at least one of the richest men in the world and as well as a company partner that is a pioneer in the satellite industry.

Elon Musk?

 

[James Cole]

No, it shutdown for the 1988 WGA strike and was almost cancelled.

The strike hit before all 26 TNG season 1 episodes could be filmed, so earlier draft scripts were used. The TNG Companion goes into Rick Berman trying to elicit episode revisions from Hannah Louise Sheerer for "We'll Always Have Paris", and "The Neutral Zone" famously filmed the first draft Maurice Hurley knocked out in 24 hours. So the show didn't exactly shut down, it just had a longer production hiatus between seasons 1 and 2. Much like SNW season 3 did with the latest strike.

And which episodes of Discovery, Picard, or Strange New Worlds were reshot?

The early arc from DISCOVERY season 2 was reshot to remove the Pike as a devout Catholic plotline. There are Deadline articles going over the shut down and reshoots when Alex Kurtzman took over as showrunner from the fired Harberts and Berg and reconfigured the season arc.

PICARD ran around 30 days over pattern in shooting season 1 according to public records in California. There are interviews with various actors talking about doing reshoots for the beginning of the season at the end of production.

No reshoots have been established for SNW. It's had a much more stable production history than the two former series.

Both TNG and DISCOVERY / PICARD both had their issues, but DISCOVERY / PICARD quantifiably had more than the former.

 

[Firebird]

The strike hit before all 26 TNG season 1 episodes could be filmed, so earlier draft scripts were used. The TNG Companion goes into Rick Berman trying to elicit episode revisions from Hannah Louise Sheerer for "We'll Always Have Paris", and "The Neutral Zone" famously filmed the first draft Maurice Hurley knocked out in 24 hours. So the show didn't exactly shut down, it just had a longer production hiatus between seasons 1 and 2. Much like SNW season 3 did with the latest strike.

The early arc from DISCOVERY season 2 was reshot to remove the Pike as a devout Catholic plotline. There are Deadline articles going over the shut down and reshoots when Alex Kurtzman took over as showrunner from the fired Harberts and Berg and reconfigured the season arc.

PICARD ran around 30 days over pattern in shooting season 1 according to public records in California. There are interviews with various actors talking about doing reshoots for the beginning of the season at the end of production.

No reshoots have been established for SNW. It's had a much more stable production history than the two former series.

Both TNG and DISCOVERY / PICARD both had their issues, but DISCOVERY / PICARD quantifiably had more than the former.

Where's the source for reshoots on Discovery season 2? I know they had a lengthy production pause after Harberts and Berg were fired to completely retool the back 2/3 of the season, but as far as I know, the retooling didn't extend much/at all into the first five episodes that had been shot to that point.

 

[James Cole]

Where's the source for reshoots on Discovery season 2? I know they had a lengthy production pause after Harberts and Berg were fired to completely retool the back 2/3 of the season, but as far as I know, the retooling didn't extend much/at all into the first five episodes that had been shot to that point.

I remember reading an article crica 2018 or 2019 about reshoots as part of Kurtzman taking over... but it's been a while. X amount of days/weeks of hiatus, Y amount of days/weeks of reshoots.

At this point it's like Riker telling Data to scower the database for people showering in their clothes.

One of the "New Eden" guest stars at some point also talked about changes made to the episode after Kurtzman came in.

 

[oktay]

Do you know what Skydance should do? Paramount Plus should close down and not give the distribution rights of the old Star Trek TV series and movies to Netflix exclusively. They can give the rights of the new Treks to Amazon or apple so that they can produce new ones.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Do you know what Skydance should do? Paramount Plus should close down and not give the distribution rights of the old Star Trek TV series and movies to Netflix exclusively. They can give the rights of the new Treks to Amazon or apple so that they can produce new ones.

So you keep saying

 

[oktay]

So you keep saying

I just think that the current situation of Paramount Plus will not recover. I think it makes more sense for Paramount Plus to close down and license old and new Star Treks along with its other series. In the current situation

 

[fireproof78]

I just think that the current situation of Paramount Plus will not recover. I think it makes more sense for Paramount Plus to close down and license old and new Star Treks along with its other series. In the current situation

Skydance will decide that.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

On Paramount Plus, Star Trek is a star IP, one of the most important franchises they have available to help them build and hold an audience. On Netflix it's just another disposable series.

 

[oktay]

On Paramount Plus, Star Trek is a star IP, one of the most important franchises they have available to help them build and hold an audience. On Netflix it's just another disposable series.

That's why I wrote that old movies and series should be given to Netflix and new Trek TV shows should be given to Amazon, which cancels fewer TV series. (This includes the New Trek TV shows that have ended so far.)

 

[HotRod]

That's why I wrote that old movies and series should be given to Netflix and new Trek TV shows should be given to Amazon, which cancels fewer TV series. (This includes the New Trek TV shows that have ended so far.)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Paramount Plus finally making a profit? Why would they shutter their streaming service when they've finally started making money from it.

 

[Firebird]

Do you know what Skydance should do? Paramount Plus should close down and not give the distribution rights of the old Star Trek TV series and movies to Netflix exclusively. They can give the rights of the new Treks to Amazon or apple so that they can produce new ones.

 

[oktay]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Paramount Plus finally making a profit? Why would they shutter their streaming service when they've finally started making money from it.

Paramount Posts $49M Streaming Profit Amid Gain of 3.5M Subs, Film Unit Swings Back to Black

The Hollywood giant posts its second quarterly direct-to-consumer profit in a row in its second results since agreeing to a sale to Skydance Media, which is on track to close in the first half of 2025.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Yes, it is, and since there were negative comments about the cool progress of the Star Trek titles and the financial situation of Paramount, I thought it was due to Paramount Plus not being able to make a profit.

 

[Danja]

Paramount Board’s Special Committee Says It Is “Bound” By Merger Pact With Skydance; “There Will Not Be Any Engagement” With Rival Bidders

Paramount Global's board committee says its "binding" merger agreement with Skydance Media means a rival, 11th-hour offer won't be considered.

deadline.com

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Is that a good thing? It feels like it might be a good thing.

 

[Quinton]

Insofar as I'm not sure any of this can be qualified as a truly good thing, yeah, I think I'll take this over the alternative.