Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga

[JD]

Sure, I just assumed studios like Disney would only want their own content on the streaming services, and at the same time wouldn't want to hand over their most popular content to a competitor. But I guess in the end, the chance to make more money off of them is always going to win out over concerns like that. I don't necessarily mean that as a bad thing, since studios need to make money off of these movies and shows in order for us to get more, and if they need to license them out to other streaming services to do that, then I'm all for it. And on a personal level, it just gives me a chance to watch stuff that would otherwise be on a service I'm not necessarily signed up for.

 

[Skywalker]

Sorry, I hope you didn't think my snark was being directed at you. I was directing it more at the studios for initially licensing their content to one of a few streamers (i.e. Netflix, Prime Video) before thinking they could make more money by branching off to make their own streaming services, then realizing it's not the moneymaker they thought it would be, and going back to licensing some of their content back to other services again, putting us right back where we started but with everything much less consumer-friendly than it used to be.

 

[JD]

I did, but I understand what you meant now.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I liked the movie a lot, but I saw it not realizing it was a direct prequel, and it's been long enough since I saw Fury Road I didn't make any of the connections. So when the movie ended and stuff was resolved I like "Wha..oh."

They told a great story about Furiosa's childhood but it didn't have as much of the phrenetic vehicle combat scenes of the other Mad Max movies.

 

[Starscream2112]

Now that you've said it, I have little doubt they are, at least in the long term. I'm sure the thinking goes: Why pay a "middleman" approximately forty percent of the ticket price, when you can put it out online (preferably on your own streaming service) and pocket the whole amount?

Or you can just buy a movie theater chain like Sony just did and keep all the profits from a Sony movie shown at that theater.

 

[JD]

I watched this this morning and I enjoyed it, I don't think it was quite as good as Fury Road, it was still good.
I was a little shocked the big final confrontation with Dementus was so close to where Fury Road started, I had assumed she'd been Imperator and leading the War Rig for a long time.
Both Anya Taylor Joy and the girl who played the young Furiousa did a great job.
Chris Hemsworth was also great Dementus, you could tell her was having a blast playing the crazy villain.
It definitely matched the quality of Fury Road's action scenes, they were pretty great.

 

[Tosk]

Spoiler

I was a little shocked the big final confrontation with Dementus was so close to where Fury Road started, I had assumed she'd been Imperator and leading the War Rig for a long time.

Spoiler: Spoiler as well, I guess?

It's not actually close, there's a time jump of years involved even though the editing style of the final sequence makes one think otherwise at first. The time cut is long enough for Anya to grow into being Charlize.

 

[Gaith]

Not sure if anyone's mentioned, but the movie is currently on US Netflix.

And you have to love the ultracompetence of some characters. Like how her Mom was this unstoppable Terminator who always was perfect with every shot and never let anything stop her despite looking like she'd never been in a fight before. And how every shot Furiousa and Jack made was a perfect headshot as well.

What annoyed me about that first act was: where the hell was the Green Place's security/defenses? How did a band of marauders on bicycles ride into their oasis unnoticed? It's either a colony of fierce inhabitants, where even the children are badasses, and the women are god-level marksmen, or a colony of peaceful farmers who can't be bothered or are too foolish to erect a watchtower and have defenders stand watch: gotta pick one of those, George.

I also don't think there's any good reason why she didn't just snag a motorcycle and drive away home after Praetor Jack offered to train her.

In conclusion, it had some great sequences, and some solid performances, but 2.5 hours is just too long for a movie about a protagonist who doesn't really have an arc.

 

[JD]

Yeah, it is a little odd that they didn't have any kind of defenses.

Spoiler: Spoiler as well, I guess?

It's not actually close, there's a time jump of years involved even though the editing style of the final sequence makes one think otherwise at first. The time cut is long enough for Anya to grow into being Charlize.

Oh, I didn't realize that, it seemed like it went right from one scene to the next. He could have made the time jump a little clearer.

 

[Anwar]

It's possible that they thought if they put up defenses or warning triggers it would make people realize they were even there to begin with. But that depends on whether or not folks knew about the location or not. Like how no one knew about the Oasis the kids stayed in in "Beyond Thunderdome"

 

[Tosk]

He could have made the time jump a little clearer.

I agree. I wish there was more separation, and I would have preferred not to have the Cliffs Notes version of Fury Road at the end too.

 

[JD]

It's possible that they thought if they put up defenses or warning triggers it would make people realize they were even there to begin with. But that depends on whether or not folks knew about the location or not. Like how no one knew about the Oasis the kids stayed in in "Beyond Thunderdome"

That's true, they could have just assumed they were well hidden enough that defenses, weren't necessary. It also occurs to me now, that we didn't actually see how Dementus's guys got in there, so for all we know they could have had a people out patrolling the borders that they killed or something like that.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

I just recently watched the movie, and what bugged me about The Green Place is that the one in Fury Road looked nothing like the one in Furiosa.
The one in Furiosa is depicted as being hidden in a canyon of some kind; while the one in Fury Road is shown to be some kind of swamp that the War Rig drives through.
There's no way the geography/landscape changed that much in twenty odd years.
I also think the locations/distances between the Citadel, Gas Town and the Bullet Farm are inconsistent with each other and both films.
In Fury Road, Gas Town appears to be just over the horizon from the Citadel, within sight of one another through telescopes; while in Furiosa, Gas Town appears to be at least a full day of driving away from the Citadel.
The same goes for the Green Place. How is it no one from the Citadel or the other two fortresses, found it in twenty odd years when it appeared to be only a day and a half, maybe two days, drive away from their locations?

 

[Anwar]

George Miller said something about how the movies (except maybe the first one) are supposed to be more mythological stories told by some future historian and not solid fact.

This explains why Tom Hardy was Max in Fury Road despite being 2 years younger than Charlize Theron, and Furiousa was explicitly born years AFTER the War that destroyed the old civilizations. He'd be in his mid 50s by then (the age Gibson would've been) but the historian wrote him as a younger man.

 

[JD]

This and Beyond Thunderdome were explicitly stories being told by Savannah and HIstory Man, so that fits pretty well, and is an easy explanation for any inconsistencies. The relationship between the movies has always felt a little unclear, we already had Bruce Spence playing practically identical characters in 2 and Beyond Thunderdome, but Max doesn't seem to know him in Beyond Thunderdome.

I just recently watched the movie, and what bugged me about The Green Place is that the one in Fury Road looked nothing like the one in Furiosa.
The one in Furiosa is depicted as being hidden in a canyon of some kind; while the one in Fury Road is shown to be some kind of swamp that the War Rig drives through.
There's no way the geography/landscape changed that much in twenty odd years.
I also think the locations/distances between the Citadel, Gas Town and the Bullet Farm are inconsistent with each other and both films.
In Fury Road, Gas Town appears to be just over the horizon from the Citadel, within sight of one another through telescopes; while in Furiosa, Gas Town appears to be at least a full day of driving away from the Citadel.
The same goes for the Green Place. How is it no one from the Citadel or the other two fortresses, found it in twenty odd years when it appeared to be only a day and a half, maybe two days, drive away from their locations?

Yeah, I was wondering about some of the distances and geography while I was watching it.

 

[Gaith]

It's possible that they thought if they put up defenses or warning triggers it would make people realize they were even there to begin with. But that depends on whether or not folks knew about the location or not. Like how no one knew about the Oasis the kids stayed in in "Beyond Thunderdome"

If one has a green oasis and thriving human colony in the middle of a desert that hordes of people can mysteriously survive and drive around in (implausible, but okay, that's the premise), it's only rational to suppose that from time to time, people are going to notice it. So, one can either choose to erect defenses and enact a 24-hour watch or not, but, either way, people will eventually "know about the location."

 

[Anwar]

This and Beyond Thunderdome were explicitly stories being told by Savannah and HIstory Man, so that fits pretty well, and is an easy explanation for any inconsistencies. The relationship between the movies has always felt a little unclear, we already had Bruce Spence playing practically identical characters in 2 and Beyond Thunderdome, but Max doesn't seem to know him in Beyond Thunderdome.

Yeah, I was wondering about some of the distances and geography while I was watching it.

Yes, Road Warrior is also revealed to be a story that the grown of Feral Kid was telling as he's dying of old age.

I remember I found a video of the American redub of his speech. It was hilarious, the guy sounded like a drunk Gary Busey

 

[JD]

I forgot about that with Road Warrior. I've never heard the American dubs of the first two, I have no problem with the Australian accent, so it never seemed necessary.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

In my head cannon, only "Mad Max" and "Fury Road" are as they "really happened", while "Road Warrior", "Beyond Thunderdome" and "Furiosa" are stories retold through an unreliable narrator.

My reasoning is that in the first film, we, the audience, are the omnipotent observer watching the events unfold as they happened; while in "Fury Road", the opening lines are "My name is Max." Which means Max is the one telling the story, even though the story is Furiosa's, it is from Max's perspective to an extent; and even Max can be considered an unreliable narrator.

"Road Warrior" is a retelling of events that happened to the Feral Kid long ago. The same goes with Savannah in "Beyond Thunderdome" and the First History Man in "Furiosa". Their perspective has been clouded by time and age. They are the unreliable narrators of the story.​

 

[JD]

Do you mean Road Warrior for the one narrated by the Feral Kid.