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Frasier

Well, I've gone through Cheers on DVD so I bit the bullet and decided to dive into Frasier.

Bought Season 1 on DVD and started watching it tonight. It's OK, so far, and while I'm sure it picks up later in it I'm thusly not overtly impressed with it or see why it got such raves.
Just FYI...

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If you aren't living something of a normal life between episodes, and are just running this stuff back to back (all straped in), then you aren't going to enjoy it.

Comedy, it shouldn't be inflicted... even on yourself. :techman:
 
I watched 'Bla-z-boy' a couple of weeks ago and forgot how I usually laugh all the way through it. Frasier's horror at his and Martin's 'relationship' outlasting all of his previous ones is hilarious. :lol:

There's a good early-season episode where Daphne's ex-boyfriend is showing up in Seattle in the hope of sparking things up again, and everyone ends up lying to him to get rid of him. Daphne and Niles are married, Frasier is seperated from Maris, who is Roz, and Martin is an astronaut! Hijinks ensue, the ex is about to leave, and then all the truth comes out: "I'll never understand how two men like you could have been spawn by that sweet, courageous old astronaut!" :lol:
 
^ That's a classic alright, I especially love the ending.

Daphne: "Really, we're not the awful people you think we are."
Frasier: "No, the truth is we've been lying to you all night!"
 
About half-way through Season 3 now. Getting more into it's groove.

I forgot what a goddess Jane Leeves was.
 
About half-way through Season 3 now. Getting more into it's groove.

I forgot what a goddess Jane Leeves was.
You just watched Moon Dance, didn't you? ;)

Well this thread convinced me to buy the complete series box set, €105 for all 11 seasons, t'was a bargain.
 
I forgot what a goddess Jane Leeves was.
You just watched Moon Dance, didn't you? ;)

One of the all-time sexiest performances in TV history! If I can't have my own Daphne, I at least want a woman who can fill that dress.:drool:

Then there's "Ski Lodge," where Niles nearly becomes one of the luckiest guys on the planet, if only Annie hadn't indignantly put her foot down, "Well I don't do those anymore!":(;)
 
Jane Leeves is also a big Star Trek fan. She said in the 30 Year Anniversary book that she got in trouble on the Voyager set for stealing a combadge.
 
Just finished watching the first 3 seasons for the first time (about to start on the 4th), and while there have been some duds along the way, on the whole it's been pretty fantastic. I'd actually heard that the series declines as it goes on (before improving a bit toward the end), not that it got better. I guess I'll just have to find out for myself.

Nah, when people say that it's just because the show took a temporary dip in quality for a year or so about 3/4 of the way through it's run. Even then it was still better than most sitcoms. I don't believe for a second it was a sitcom that spent half its life in decline. I thought the final season was fantastic.
 
Just finished watching the first 3 seasons for the first time (about to start on the 4th), and while there have been some duds along the way, on the whole it's been pretty fantastic. I'd actually heard that the series declines as it goes on (before improving a bit toward the end), not that it got better. I guess I'll just have to find out for myself.

Nah, when people say that it's just because the show took a temporary dip in quality for a year or so about 3/4 of the way through it's run. Even then it was still better than most sitcoms. I don't believe for a second it was a sitcom that spent half its life in decline. I thought the final season was fantastic.
While all art is subjective, particularly humour, I do think that Frasier lost something during the seventh season. Here is my long and boring examination of my feelings on the subject which I'm sure you will all be fascinated by. :shifty:

I think the first season was good, but they were still finding their legs and trying to figure out the characters. Frasier in particular seems to act more like the Frasier from Cheers than he would in the rest of the series. Season 2 is when they really got the ball rolling and the characters clicked into place. Seasons 3, 4 and 5 built on this and the show got into its groove with humour that built upon the previously defined character traits. Some think there was a decline in season 6, but I love the tone of that year and it is perhaps my favourite season. I think Dinner Party may be my favourite episode of the show.

I think the show began to decline in season 7 because the writers were getting tired, and there was those awful episodes involving Poppy. It was still very good, but not as good as the previous seasons. Season 8 suffered because Christopher Lloyd and Joe Keenan left the writing staff so the show's tone shifted somewhat. There was also that stretch of four episodes where Jane Leeves wasn't around due to her pregnancy. Still very good, but there was more clunkers than usual.

Season 9 lost focus and started feeling more like a typical sitcom rather than the unique style the show used to have. Having Daphne's mother moving in with Niles was a terrible idea, she annoyed the crap out of me and I just don't know what they were thinking. Season 10 had better quality writing, and I don't mind that they went more dramatic with stories like Niles' heart-scare, but Daphne's mother was still around, they introduced Julia who also annoyed me and they tried to do a will they/wont they relationship between Frasier and Roz.

Season 11 was a big improvement. Christopher Lloyd and Joe Keenan returned to head the writing staff and they got rid of Julia, and stupid Roz/Frasier storyline, and Daphne's mother was almost completely ignored. They also upped the farcical element of the show which had gotten stagnant while they were gone, High Holidays and Caught in the Act were top-notch Frasier. That was a great season for the show to go out on.
 
Well, in season 9 one of the writers and co-creators (who also worked on "Cheers") was killed on one of the planes hyjacked on September 11th, 2001. After that another writer died too. And while I can't find it, I seem to recall another writer for the series dying on September 11th.

Both those had massive impacts on the show's qaulity.
 
I'm just now at the Season 10 Premiere and I'm still enjoying it but Daphe's Mom annoys the hell out of me. Why is she in so many episodes???
 
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