I would happily include those in the list. Either way they're as integral a part of their respective franchises as any of their characters.
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I would happily include those in the list. Either way they're as integral a part of their respective franchises as any of their characters.
Indirectly. Krall was threatening the Federation (whether he thought he was "saving" it or not), and Earth is the head of the Federation.
I'd consider R2D2 and C3P0 characters - they possess distinct personalities. At certain times (when required by the story,) the Enterprise computer may even exhibit character-like qualities. But those are supposed to be AI.
The Enterprise itself, though, or the Millennium Falcon, the TARDIS, the Batmobile? I'd have to categorize those as settings, rather than characters. Familiar settings? Sure. Settings we're supposed to feel are important, because of their familiarity and because of their importance to the main characters in their respective stories? Absolutely so - often, they're essentially the place the characters call home. But I'd still call them settings, in the same way that Starfleet Headquarters or Tatooine or London or stately Wayne Manor are settings - they're places where the story happens to (or is made to happen by) the characters.
Off-screen and irrelevant. Orion slave girls are also treated as property by slavers. So are the droids R2-D2 & C-3PO and BB-8.
So is Indiana Jones, John McClane, Terminator, RoboCop, Marv (from Sin City), etc. I guess they aren't characters either.
Again off-screen and irrelevant. In the actual film the Falcon makes a heroic return and Han & Chewie are happy to see her again.
You obviously haven't watched a single episode of Game of Thrones.
Technically of course, you are correct, but the sheer importance of the enterprise, the crew's affection for it, I mean Kirk was practically in love with her, elevates the enterprise above a mere 'setting' for me.
" I did what you wanted, I stayed a way" Cos all good fathers believe a woman demanding and getting sole custody to a child, because she dislikes the father's lawful career path, makes them both wonderful parents.
Man gets divorced, man goes on five year mission during his daughter's childhood. If nuMcCoy is a father then he chooses to spend five years away from his child when she is only 9 years old. Yeah give him a Father of the year prize!
There was a fight in a nebula during which Riker piloted the ship with a Joystick. No, seriously, a joystick.
My dad was in the USAF and spent time away from us, at times for years. He was still a great dad.
We know nothing of the particulars of McCoy's relationship with his daughter. They may be very close in spite of the physical distance between them. They may exchange "letters" weekly or even daily. OTOH, she may hate his guts and returned any letters unopened. Again we don't know.
Seen seasons 1-3, live close to a lot of the filming locations and was trying to get a background/shemp audition in 2011. So yeah, but it's notorious for treating people badly.
They blow up their warp core to escape some technobabble weapon being used against them.
And lets not forget the ultimate battle at the end that set us up for Nemesis---
After all - I believe this establishes that not only would Riker have rammed the Enterprise into an enemy - later Picard did the same thing. INS had its moments..
After all - I believe this establishes that not only would Riker have rammed the Enterprise into an enemy - later Picard did the same thing. INS had its moments..
My point was that a character can be mistreated, have his family die, be beaten, raped, killed and still be a character or even the protagonist. And not just in GoT either.
STTMP: Enterprise is almost destroyed
STII: Enterprise is almost destroyed
STIII: Enterprise IS destroyed
STIV: Still destroyed
STV: Enterprise is almost destroyed
STVI: Enterprise is almost destroyed
STGEN: Enterprise destroyed
STFC: Enterprise almost destroyed
ST Insurrection: Enterprise almost destroyed
ST: Nemesis: Enterprise almost destoryed
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No it was destoryed. Because it won't be appearing in any more stories. (on film)
Then shouldn't it be "Destoried"? That seems more proper.No it was destoryed. Because it won't be appearing in any more stories. (on film)
I gotta go with what I'm given.
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