Four STAR TREK Series Bibles Are Available for Fans to Read
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T’Pol could have been T’Pau. How crap would that have been? Interesting that Hoshi was intended to fill a kind of McCoy role in provoking the ships’ Vulcan.
I have to inwardly groan at the last sentence of T’Pau’s description. ‘She’s even taken an interest in human mating habits’… Fuck you Braga/Berman. Grow up.
Though saying that, for better or worse it reads like it could have flopped out of Roddenberry’s brain. I say for better or worse. No better, just worse. The better part is that it was dropped.
As much as these bibles are a catalog of dodged bullets, they are very cool.
I have to inwardly groan at the last sentence of T’Pau’s description. ‘She’s even taken an interest in human mating habits’… Fuck you Braga/Berman. Grow up.
Though saying that, for better or worse it reads like it could have flopped out of Roddenberry’s brain. I say for better or worse. No better, just worse. The better part is that it was dropped.
As much as these bibles are a catalog of dodged bullets, they are very cool.
Links don't seem to be working for me either.
Does the TNG one mention Riker being bigoted towards Data? Just reread both the novelisation of Encounter of Farpoint (where the vestige of it is still in the final episode, so I'm assuming it was working from a draft with the scene where Riker met Data before the holodeck and is so uncomfortable with him Picard tells him to read the guy's record to get a fucking clue) and the first original novel Ghost Ship and they both make a big thing of it.
Ghost Ship actually hits it so hard Riker is nearly reducing Data to tears and Geordi is having to restrain himself from decking the first officer.
Does the TNG one mention Riker being bigoted towards Data? Just reread both the novelisation of Encounter of Farpoint (where the vestige of it is still in the final episode, so I'm assuming it was working from a draft with the scene where Riker met Data before the holodeck and is so uncomfortable with him Picard tells him to read the guy's record to get a fucking clue) and the first original novel Ghost Ship and they both make a big thing of it.
Ghost Ship actually hits it so hard Riker is nearly reducing Data to tears and Geordi is having to restrain himself from decking the first officer.
With regular browsers and/or a VPN I only got timeout errors, but Tor browser worked for me.
I just took a glimpse over the Voyager one and I find it interesting that apparently some manner of friendship was intended between Tom and B'Elanna from the start. Those two had practically no interactions during the first two seasons, and I always thought when they did begin hinting at a relationship between them in the third it came out of nowhere.
Actually, I found Tom and B'Elanna very believable.
The first season, she definitely dudn't like him at first. But in "FACES", he showed rral maturity during her situation, and I think that was the point where her attitude softened. It slowly built into a friendship, where they had some scenes together in season 2, like how she clearly had at least a cordial relationship with him in "DREADNOUGHT".
Plus, there's many times when two very opposite people end up together. I've actually seen it before in real life.
The first season, she definitely dudn't like him at first. But in "FACES", he showed rral maturity during her situation, and I think that was the point where her attitude softened. It slowly built into a friendship, where they had some scenes together in season 2, like how she clearly had at least a cordial relationship with him in "DREADNOUGHT".
Plus, there's many times when two very opposite people end up together. I've actually seen it before in real life.
While it's true RDM and Roxann Dawson worked well together and made the relationship work with their performances, in writing it did seemingly come out of nowhere. It was more an observation I made when I began rewatching the early seasons during the later days of the series in that in the first two seasons, it was rare for the two of them to have a scene together. Then suddenly in the third they appear to be sort of love interests.
Might have been Jeri Taylor who got them more on track for that, as season 3 was when she took more full control of the writers' room.
Or when Data states he is "class of 78":
Which explains both his cover of "Popular Mechanics" and his being able to make Yar happy... Until she went nuts and went after all those blockheads:
Big-time!
I get a huge kick out of reading the TNG Bible!
I've yet to read it, but I've a feeling much laughter might come about... not that all his ideas were bad, but some needed tempering. His not wanting Patrick Stewart from the get-go didn't help either, but he's usually good with casting... he was won over, fortunately...
Aye. And people went after Fred Freiberger for wanting to add more loooooove-themed episodes, which may be the bread and butter for some fans but not all - it's quite a balance, but early season 1, with Rand, Noel, or anyone else, never mind season 2 with Kirk "teachin' about teh luuurve", became so laughably bad the more overtly it was scribbled out... (True, Fred's style is a mixed bag, but so many factors cobbled season 3 and blaming Fred was somewhat undeserved. The fact his season has a few bona fide classics doesn't hurt either...
But it's a shame Fontana left... but Armen being her replacement was not a bad choice, IMHO...)Roddenberry seemed unapologetic about using women as objects* and said so in that 1976 album release, much to the applause of the audience of the time. He said the same of men as well, which never came about onscreen. Unless you consider Kirk and Riker in a different light via passive-aggressive mannerisms from the women who go to bed, sofa, shower, love seat, car seat, etc, etc, with him.
(26:30 in really has him starting on about it... slightly later in, he wanted 50/50 in the show as well but had to settle for 30% women, apparently...)
* each person has their own ideas and ideals, there are even charts and table matrices covering the gamut... it's probably easier when everyone in the room feels the same way...
Dang. I wish I saw more posts before responding, nice to see "class o' 78" being brought up.
"It's his way."
Gerrold had nothing to do with The Making of Star Trek. That was Stephen [Poe] Whitfield.
"The World of Star Trek". I stand corrected. I have a David Gerrold book from 1973, I bought it a long time ago, and the two names are so similar that I mixed them up.
What game was that?
It's in the title of the video. The best-selling original game of the Atari 2600.
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