No, but it sure as hell wasn't the death penalty.Okay. So the little boy putting his rabid dog down in "Old Yeller" was doing it out of vengeance.
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Oh god, yes. I wouldn't say it's a lot, but we do receive notifications for flaming in TNZ fairly regularly, and it makes you want to just smack the people who don't get it.
It's not like there's a massive tome on rules and regulations in there. It's one sticky thread with 10 simple rules (It's even called that, and not notifying on flames outside of a few specific exceptions is one of the ten rules).
At least in TNZ's case it's simple ignorance of the rules more than deliberately ignoring them, unlike MA where you'd have to be living under a rock to not know the rules there. Everyone just flaunts them anyway to go in there and grandstand. Of course, privately notifying the mods about something in TNZ doesn't carry the same potential for drama as being a blowhard in MA does.
cultcross while being an awesome guy, doesn't make policy around here. So asking him is irrelevant.
You don't have to ask anymore, it's a setting in your UserCP - you can opt in, have a tour, and opt straight back out again if you don't like what you see.
For the love of God man, you can read TNZ without participating. If it's not what you like, then you're not under any obligation to post there. Why do you always have to make everything twenty times more complicated than it needs to be?
But for those too afraid to ask for access without knowing the rules first, here they are, courtesy of Frontline:
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The 10 Simple Rules for posting in TNZ
1) Warnings will be rare and for illegalities, porn or physical threats. Other than that infractions will be handled by revocation of access to TNZ for a period of time up to the mods of TNZ. No appeals will be entertained by the MODs or T'Bonz or Spiff. Posting in TNZ is a privilege, not a right. If the three TNZ mods are in agreement that the forum is better off without you, for any reason, you may lose access to TNZ.
2) NO mod notifications, except in the instances above.
3) Heated arguments is fine. But if you're only there to stir up crap, or spam, you'll be tossed.
4) No discussing the events in TNZ outside of TNZ.
5) Threads posted for no purpose other than attacking a specific user, and devoid of any real topic will be closed.
6) The barring of discussions regarding the how to when it comes to illegal downloads is a board wide rule.
7) Parody Threads are allowed, changing someone's name or the contents of their post while quoting them is acceptable.
8) No vulgarity nor flaming posters in the tags will be allowed.
9) No posting any user's real life information or using any information about a user against that user (either here or in real life) unless that user has given specific permission to do so. The source for the information is limited to what has been posted within TNZ. Data from other forums, emails, chat logs, or web sites or by someone playing detective is forbidden with out the consent of all parties.
10) No slurs of a racial or sexual or ethnic kind are allowed.
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Yes, we're technically skirting the line on Rule #4 (though we're not actually discussing an event in TNZ), but I think a discussion clearing up some of the misconceptions about TNZ that get mentioned here has been a long time coming, so it's a good thing.
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After discussing this in the Briefing Room, we've decided to reopen this thread.
Anyone who would like to talk about the TNZ discussion here can feel free to do so as long as we don't get into mentioning any specific posters, events, or moderator actions in a negative way.
I think we have a good opportunity to clear up some misconceptions about TNZ and get some people involved who might have hesitated to check it out before.
If you would like to discuss the original death penalty topic, you can feel free to do so as well. Just be conscious of the fact that the OP may not feel like discussing it any longer, which is fine.
Thanks.
Anyone who would like to talk about the TNZ discussion here can feel free to do so as long as we don't get into mentioning any specific posters, events, or moderator actions in a negative way.
I think we have a good opportunity to clear up some misconceptions about TNZ and get some people involved who might have hesitated to check it out before.
If you would like to discuss the original death penalty topic, you can feel free to do so as well. Just be conscious of the fact that the OP may not feel like discussing it any longer, which is fine.
Thanks.
How about this:
If, as I have just successfully (and temporarily) done, it is as easy as clicking on a radio button to gain access to TNZ, which I'm guessing that any poster can do, then why do it in the first place? Shouldn't it be a bit harder, like asking a mod for permission? That way they can help to 'vent' the place a bit.
If, as I have just successfully (and temporarily) done, it is as easy as clicking on a radio button to gain access to TNZ, which I'm guessing that any poster can do, then why do it in the first place? Shouldn't it be a bit harder, like asking a mod for permission? That way they can help to 'vent' the place a bit.
Vent it how so?
Well, I just want to repeat my feelings that the death penalty should only be reserved for the "worst of the worst" the Timothy McVeighs, the Charles Mansons, the homicidal, murderous, maniacs and even then only for very violent crimes and crimes with substantial forensic and physical evidence -and it also shouldn't be able to be pleaded down to life.
Not all murderers "deserve death" but the guys who snap some night and kill their whole family in a violent, premeditated, rage stuffing their wife into a wood chipper "deserve it."
Sure, it may not "do any good" but I don't think does any harm either. Sorry, some people just do not deserve to live. If they live then they get the very comfort of simply their own thoughts, something their victims no longer have and those left in his wake are to be tormented with life-long pain and anguish.
That shouldn't be "rewarded" with the state-sanctioned compassion of "Well, you killed a bunch of people violently and without showing any remorse or apology so we're just going to lock you up for the rest of your life, see to all of your needs, and make sure you get your federaly-required 2 hours of exercise every day. Hey, you'll even have better health-care than half of the country has!"
Again, not all capital murderers or crimes, just the "worst of the worst."
Not all murderers "deserve death" but the guys who snap some night and kill their whole family in a violent, premeditated, rage stuffing their wife into a wood chipper "deserve it."
Sure, it may not "do any good" but I don't think does any harm either. Sorry, some people just do not deserve to live. If they live then they get the very comfort of simply their own thoughts, something their victims no longer have and those left in his wake are to be tormented with life-long pain and anguish.
That shouldn't be "rewarded" with the state-sanctioned compassion of "Well, you killed a bunch of people violently and without showing any remorse or apology so we're just going to lock you up for the rest of your life, see to all of your needs, and make sure you get your federaly-required 2 hours of exercise every day. Hey, you'll even have better health-care than half of the country has!"
Again, not all capital murderers or crimes, just the "worst of the worst."
Pre-screening. I think it's actually called "vetting", yes? Something like that. Pretty sure it starts with v.
I may be wrong, but I think he was going for "vet" there instead of "vent," because vent doesn't really make any sense.
I think he wants us to approve who gets into TNZ or not before granting them permission, which doesn't really work since flaming is allowed there anyway, we don't know which new(er) person is going to go there just to troll, and older members who were denied entry upfront would raise holy hell about it.
There's already accusations of liberal bias. Imagine if we started telling certain people they couldn't join TNZ before they had even established themselves as nothing more than a disruptive influence? Every time a conservative poster didn't get in a certain other board whose name we dare not speak (but rhymes with BirdGorge
) would flood over here in protest.
I think he means "vet", and I see no reason why that would be necessary or desirable.
If people are well behaved enough to post elsewhere on the board there is no good reason to deny them TNZ access unless they break the rules.
Pre-screening. I think it's actually called "vetting", yes? Something like that. Pretty sure it starts with v.
Yes, the term is "Vet"
Why would anyone have to be pre-screened to be allowed TNZ access?
I'm just wondering why it's so easy to get into TNZ. If it's only a matter of clicking a button, which any user can do, then why have it at all? Why not just have TNZ open to everyone from the get-go? If we're going to require ANY extra steps to get in, I'm wondering why they're not a bit more stringent.
So, by holding this conversation in this thread, are you equating access to TNZ with the death penalty? 
Seriously, what is it with your need to question and want to change everything? Just go with it.
You have to opt in because it's a forum where the a lot of the board rules don't apply, it's too make sure no one wanders in there by accident and "gets in over their head"
Not unless we hate the TNZ mods.
You might as well ask why people need the board software to put someone on ignore for them instead of just doing it themselves, or why they need the mods to delete their accounts instead of just leaving the board on their own.
Leaving it opt-in means you had to take at least one extra bit of effort to check it out on your own, since the thread titles aren't visible on the main page.
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So, by holding this conversation in this thread, are you equating access to TNZ with the death penalty?
Oh, TNZ is the death penalty. It's just a very slow, very inhumane death.
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