Really? I thought the special effects including the CGI was really good. Definitely WAY better than in Insurrection.
For those who like Nemesis
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Really? I thought the special effects including the CGI was really good. Definitely WAY better than in Insurrection.
I tend to agree. The E didn't quite look as good as the model in FC, but she definitely looked better here than 'Insurrection.'
All those plant-on torpedo tubes on the other hand...
found an article on the sound work done for ST X:Nemesis.
http://mixonline.com/sound4picture/film_tv/audio_star_trek_nemesis/index.html
Jan 1, 2003
http://mixonline.com/sound4picture/film_tv/audio_star_trek_nemesis/index.html
Jan 1, 2003
Looking back on it now, the Nemesis FX do not have the impact of the ST09 FX, but they were the best since at least STTMP!
RAMA
I really liked Nemesis. I thought it was great. Then I came online and was OMG WTF? when I found out it was the most hated Trek film of them all.
I thought it could have done without the wedding at the start, but I thought the rest was great. Did I love seeng the crew I grew up with one last time? Yes. Was it a masterpiece? No (but what is? I was bored to death by Dark Knight and other so-called "masterpieces"). Did it keep me and my family entertained for two hours? Very yes. Did it have a thoughtful nature vs. nurture theme while shit blew up all around? Yep.
The crew was too old for all that running around, but so was Bruce Willis in Die Hard 4. I had a huge grin on my face at the sight of Picard (with two phaser rifles, one in each hand!) and Data running about a Reman ship and fighting hapless Vampiric goons.
And Data's death came as quite the suprise. People say his death was rubbish, but IMO that "Goodbye" was all that was needed.
I thought it could have done without the wedding at the start, but I thought the rest was great. Did I love seeng the crew I grew up with one last time? Yes. Was it a masterpiece? No (but what is? I was bored to death by Dark Knight and other so-called "masterpieces"). Did it keep me and my family entertained for two hours? Very yes. Did it have a thoughtful nature vs. nurture theme while shit blew up all around? Yep.
The crew was too old for all that running around, but so was Bruce Willis in Die Hard 4. I had a huge grin on my face at the sight of Picard (with two phaser rifles, one in each hand!) and Data running about a Reman ship and fighting hapless Vampiric goons.
And Data's death came as quite the suprise. People say his death was rubbish, but IMO that "Goodbye" was all that was needed.
I still maintain that all the non-trek fans I know who saw it, or saw it with, LIKED the movie. Perception has a lot to do with success.
RAMA
i liked data's singing irving berlin and when picard was driving at "unsafe velocities" 
Can you learn to see in the dark, Captain? - Shinzon had some of the coolest ST villain lines. *cough*unlike Nero*cough*
I never thought Nemesis was nearly as bad as a lot of folks did. I thought it was far superior to Insurrection. Nemesis was at least trying to be a big, epic, game-changing Trek movie, and while it didn't succeed on many levels, I give them credit for trying to be bold rather than playing it safe with a standard TNG episode style like Insurrection.
My chief disappointment is that it failed to live up a lot of potential. There was the foundation for a really great, dark, personal Trek film that could have matched "Khan," IMO, but they screwed up the execution with some very poor decisions in the writing at various points along the way.
My chief disappointment is that it failed to live up a lot of potential. There was the foundation for a really great, dark, personal Trek film that could have matched "Khan," IMO, but they screwed up the execution with some very poor decisions in the writing at various points along the way.
startrekrcks
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it was a very dark TNG film Nemesis what did you think of Picard's personal enemy Shinzon and the movie?
-Picard telling Data to shut up.
-The Scimitar
-The climactic battle between the Enterprise, the Warbirds, and the Scimitar
-The moment B-4 starts singing the song Data sang at the wedding reception
-Dina Meyer as Donatra
-The look on Shinzon's face when he realizes the Enterprise is about to ram the Scimitar
-The alternate ending with Picard saying they were going somewhere no man had been before.
-The Scimitar
-The climactic battle between the Enterprise, the Warbirds, and the Scimitar
-The moment B-4 starts singing the song Data sang at the wedding reception
-Dina Meyer as Donatra
-The look on Shinzon's face when he realizes the Enterprise is about to ram the Scimitar
-The alternate ending with Picard saying they were going somewhere no man had been before.
I liked the camaraderie in the wedding scene. It was the first time since Worf's promotion that we got a proper reminder of how cute an ensemble show TNG could be.
I thought the Scimitar was beautiful.
The destruction of the viewscreen was a nice touch. (Some of the other parts of the battering attack idea, less so.)
I like that it isn't Insurrection
I thought the Scimitar was beautiful.
The destruction of the viewscreen was a nice touch. (Some of the other parts of the battering attack idea, less so.)
I like that it isn't Insurrection
It is, although there are regular threads of this nature as well, at least here in TrekBBS.
You really need to check out III!
I never thought NEM deserved the bashing it got. Yes, the moon-buggy was a huge anachronism, the positronic signature detected from enormous distances made little sense, but it simply wasn't that bad a film, and in many ways I prefer it to STXI. Shinzon was a far more interesting character than Nero.
And like others, I lament the excellent scenes cut from NEM - they were all very "TNG" feeling scenes that definitely belonged in the movie.
Well, I made this topic in May of last year, and I have seen every ST film now, TSFS and TFF included. Never expected this topic to be alive nearly a year later.
There are things that I didn't notice on my first watch that bug me now, and several things that grate on me, and I find myself railing on it at times...but yet I've watched it almost as much as FC just for entertainment value. 's gotta say something.
There are things that I didn't notice on my first watch that bug me now, and several things that grate on me, and I find myself railing on it at times...but yet I've watched it almost as much as FC just for entertainment value. 's gotta say something.
I liked the Romulans. And the LAZORS PEW PEW! And the fact that ships can actually take some hits instead of almost dying with the shields still up.
But that's about it. Didn't hate the movie, but not too much I actually liked either. Pretty meh.
But that's about it. Didn't hate the movie, but not too much I actually liked either. Pretty meh.
I confess that I only saw the movie for the first time just a while ago...but I saw it now, and...it was quite surprising.
For a veeery long time I've heared and read people saying it's a bad movie, worst of all etc.
Sure, it did have it's flaws, but name a movie that doesn't. And no, it wasn't the best...but definitely not the worst either!
It was pretty weird to hear that the director hadn't seen even one episode of TNG. Nevertheless, I thought the movie was good.
What I especially liked...hmm...
-the wedding!
-the whole feeling of "the end". Touching
-some shots, like the one with B-4 and Data as the camera moves from face to face without being cut.
-Enterprise getting into a Battle. Not that it wouldn't have been in one before, but...they crashed straight to Shinzon's ship! And the screen got destroyed! Never seen that before. Cool...
Data's death brought a tear or two to the eye. And with people remembering him. Sweet. And even though I didn't like B-4 that much - the only "Soong" I don't like, by the way -, I was ready to cry when he started mumbling Blue Skies.
And even though it's sad that everyone got separated, it left me feeling happy.
For a veeery long time I've heared and read people saying it's a bad movie, worst of all etc.
Sure, it did have it's flaws, but name a movie that doesn't. And no, it wasn't the best...but definitely not the worst either!
It was pretty weird to hear that the director hadn't seen even one episode of TNG. Nevertheless, I thought the movie was good.
What I especially liked...hmm...
-the wedding!
-the whole feeling of "the end". Touching
-some shots, like the one with B-4 and Data as the camera moves from face to face without being cut.
-Enterprise getting into a Battle. Not that it wouldn't have been in one before, but...they crashed straight to Shinzon's ship! And the screen got destroyed! Never seen that before. Cool...
Data's death brought a tear or two to the eye. And with people remembering him. Sweet. And even though I didn't like B-4 that much - the only "Soong" I don't like, by the way -, I was ready to cry when he started mumbling Blue Skies.
And even though it's sad that everyone got separated, it left me feeling happy.
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