Fleet construction

[Tim Walker]

Re: post Dominion War

Post War phases:

1. Initially a period of refugees, refugee camps, and massive relief efforts. A time of political uncertainty. Society is absolutely focused on survival.

2. A period of Reconstruction. The situation is more or less stabilized, at least in domestic affairs. Society emphasizes rebuilding.


As for new builds, I think these would be smaller craft. For rebuilding a small freighter might be useful, so I'm thinking of the Ju 'day/Federation raider/Maquis raider type. Two versions would be built. One would be civilian, and unarmed. Because this design can be useful as a smaller combatant, the Star Fleet version would be armed.

Build some more of the Defiant class. A proven design, if you must strengthen your defenses.

As for larger ships, I think that there would be a delay. The ship yards that can handle larger ships would be full of ships with battle damage. Next in priority would be old ships that can be refurbished. Then long delayed refits.

 

[Unicron]

There's also the question of whether any shipyards took major damage, as we know the Dominion took Betazed for a while. Both FASA and Jackill suggest that some of the major manufacturing areas have as many as four or five drydocks, so I can see those being able to take heavy repair orders. But I think you're right about the war causing a delay in construction, and that Starfleet might pull older ships out of mothballs in the interim.

 

[Tim Walker]

As for building more Defiants, I think there would be lingering fears regarding the Borg and Dominion. And tensions with the Typhon pact.

And due to their relatively small size, I think that these ships could be used as patrol vessels during peace time.

 

[Tim Walker]

But I think you're right about the war causing a delay in construction, and that Starfleet might pull older ships out of mothballs in the interim.

I have a vision of old hulls being held together with duct tape. That is, if the brass have watched Mythbusters.

 

[Tim Walker]

Here is another chart of ship classes.

http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com/startrek/files/ship_classes.html

In one respect I find this chart an inadequate comparison-today's navys don't have a category for the large exploration cruiser.

BTW, one web site commented that the Oberths could be adapted to serve as personnel transports/supply ships. So most of your science ships could be turned into support vessels.

 

[Tim Walker]

With the Ju 'day there is an example of a civil craft being adapted for other purposes.

I don't know that these are canon ships, but I have come across references to Canaveral and Calypso classes.

www.fleetops.net/news/item/221-the-calypso

 

[Tim Walker]

Slapped together, but promising. The Anubis.



http://database.obsidianfleet.net/wiki/index.php?title=Anubis_class

 

[Tim Walker]

Flying Swiss Army Knife


http://www.neutralzone.de/database/Federation/Starfleet/Soyuz01.htm

The Nebula design features a raised structure aft of the saucer, on which the mission pods fit.


Soyuz II class utility ship


I'm thinking in terms of a Soyuz sized ship, and provision for mission pods on an aft section. Conceivably, bolt on torpedo modules, similar to the New Orleans class, could be another option.

 

[Shark]

I had always wondered how Starfleet had gotten registries up to the 75,000+ range and then I saw how in DS9 each Runabout had it's own unique registry. If every utility vehicle and support craft in the Federation, excluding Starships compliment of Shuttlecraft, had their own registry, I could see a Starfleet with tens of thousands of ships, just not tens of thousands of Starships.

 

[Tim Walker]

I had always wondered how Starfleet had gotten registries up to the 75,000+ range and then I saw how in DS9 each Runabout had it's own unique registry. If every utility vehicle and support craft in the Federation, excluding Starships compliment of Shuttlecraft, had their own registry, I could see a Starfleet with tens of thousands of ships, just not tens of thousands of Starships.

Just like cars have VIN numbers, as well as license plates.

 

[Tim Walker]

I think Starfleet would want to build more traditional multirole vessels to help recoup some losses, though it's also possible they'd also want to build more tactical vessels to ensure they have something to fight with in the short term if they actually need it.

Nebula II class

http://startrekships.tumblr.com/post/58511413070/uss-avery-insignia-class-starship-by-mark

I like the idea of piece-of-pie modules. I would combine this concept with mission pods on an aft section.

 

[Tim Walker]

Re: Post Dominion War

I think that in the immediate aftermath of the war there might be an effort to modify/convert civilian vessels. Besides the Ju 'day....the Raven type...

http://database.obsidianfleet.net/wiki/index.php?title=Raven_class

 

[Shark]

After watching TNG "The Battle" I got to thinking - Starfleet must have been hurting for ships to have kept an old heap like the Stargazer active.

 

[Tim Walker]

www.startrek.com/article/designing-the-defiant


I'm thinking that you might add systems/build up a vessel like the Raven. This would be a stop gap before the Defiant became available. Perhaps bolting onto the hull a torpedo magazine/launcher. Seems more promising than using a dinky runabout.

 

[C.E. Evans]

After watching TNG "The Battle" I got to thinking - Starfleet must have been hurting for ships to have kept an old heap like the Stargazer active.

Starfleet may have decommissioned the Stargazer after getting her back.

 

[Tim Walker]

I think Starfleet would want to build more traditional multirole vessels to help recoup some losses, though it's also possible they'd also want to build more tactical vessels to ensure they have something to fight with in the short term if they actually need it.

The Raven was based on the Aerie class.

http://database.obsidianfleet.net/wiki/index.php?title=Aerie_class

Note the different mission pods, which makes the Aerie type a multi-role vehicle.

I'm thinking that a Raven derivative, with different mission pods, could be a light weight multi-role/utility vehicle. And the relatively small size suggests that the craft could be produced more quickly than larger ships.

With a bolt on torpedo magazine/launcher, the craft could function in a manner similar to the PT boats of World War II.

 

[Shark]

After watching TNG "The Battle" I got to thinking - Starfleet must have been hurting for ships to have kept an old heap like the Stargazer active.

Starfleet may have decommissioned the Stargazer after getting her back.

Oh, I meant before her disappearance.

 

[C.E. Evans]

After watching TNG "The Battle" I got to thinking - Starfleet must have been hurting for ships to have kept an old heap like the Stargazer active.

Starfleet may have decommissioned the Stargazer after getting her back.

Oh, I meant before her disappearance.

She might have been considered a ship nearing the end of her service life at the time of the Battle of Maxia, but not quite ready for the breakers yet.

 

[Tim Walker]

Scroll down www.st-minutiae.com/misc/renaissance/tm/appendix_b.html

Stated that Trills adapted Liberty(named for WWII "Liberty" freighters) ships to create the Liberty II privateers. Has anyone seen images of these privateers?

Found a diagram of the Liberty class.

https://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/federation/liberty/liberty.html

However, I'm having a problem getting the link to work.

 

[Mytran]

There you go

https://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/federation/liberty/liberty.html