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FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Discuss

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Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Tin foil? Why didn't Agent Red do that instead of sawing some poor Russian's hand off?

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Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

In 2015 anklets suck less.

Anklets... OF THE FUTURE!!!
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

What a messed up family! :eek:
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Bye bye Flosso, we hardly knew ya!
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Excellent

This 2-part episode is my favourite episode of Flash Forward so far. So many revelations, some things answered, awesome episode. The new showrunners get an A+ from me.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Excellent from me too!

Simon is now my favourite! :techman:
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

I'd give this one an excellent too. Very solid two episodes.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Better. I particularly liked the second hour, pairing what are--to me--the breakout characters for this show; not surprisingly, also the characters least involved with their own petty bullshit. Campos' ambiguous anti-hero has the best screen presence, and the best narrative, so far; dynamic, intriguing, and slightly twisted. Nice to see actual motion on the conspiracy side of things, after so little happened in the first half of the season; hopefully this won't prove to just be a special occasion for the show's return, to vanish into irrelevancy until the finale, but the show's new standard. They'll still got a lot of questions to address, and ever dwindling time to do it in.

I also liked that they gave us a broader view of the blackout, in multiple locations around the world, and what was happening then. Unfortunately, there was a problem with the broadcast during the first hour; it kept cutting to an instalment of the 700 Club. And might our protagonist finally be getting over himself and making himself useful for a change? I hope this characterization, like actual plot development, will also be a feature of FlashForward '1.5'.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Much better than most of the season so far. It finally felt like there was a sense of urgency in place rather than the soap opera emo bullshit that dominated the first half of the season. Campos is surprisingly compelling, at least a lot more so than Olivia or Mark.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

It was better then i remembered. So he was at the ballpark so no stray aircraft/car could crash into him? Presumably the airspace above it was controlled.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Excellent. Much better then the previous episodes. Good pacing, better acting, "Charlie" and the FBI lady had good chemistry in their scenes.

And wow. He killed his 'uncle' Flosso. Unexpected. "Give me back the Ring"....shout out to LOTR?

Actually all the 'reveals' were unexpected for me. Well done, for now the retooling/writing works for me. Let's see if it can be sustained.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

BTW, how fucking INEPT is the FBI in this show? Maybe their 2nd biggest lead to solving or at least providing answers to the blackout and how it happened after Lloyd Simcoe is Campos... He gets abducted under FBI custody when they bring him to Simcoe's house and I believe there was 3 or 4 agents with them besides Janis right?

So he gets rescued by Mark who was suspended at the time and acting alone and the FBI gets him back. So what do they do? Do they realize they need to increase his security to better protect this asset?

NO. They send him to the fucking hospital with one damned agent watching him?

Are you kidding me?
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

I liked it... definitely above average. Closer to excellent than the previous episodes, but still not quite there.

And it may not have many more chances to get there. The ratings for this episode were the lowest yet, down about 10% from the last new installment. Only 6.54 million viewers. Linky.

Looks like FlashForward might turn out to be another one-season wonder. I had a feeling this might happen. It was steadily losing viewers, and the lengthy hiatus certainly didn't help matters.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Eeeeh...below average.

There's a germ of a good series in there somewhere - related to the notion of people seeing possible (not fated - why do these people still act like it's fated??? why doesn't Marc take his wife's suggestion seriously that they at least move out of LA???? can't he go to work for the Paducah branch of the FBI?) glimpses of their future and how it impacts their internal lives - but TV isn't really good at conveying internal states. Maybe this story should have been left as a novel, where internal states are more natural as the core of a story.

Instead of any real exploration of What the Flash Forwards Mean, we get soap opera, standard cop show scenes (partners punch each other, rigged ambulance goes boom, etc) and convoluted, meaningless conspiracy of the sort we've all seen a dozen times before. This is just a bunch of standard TV stuff cobbled together with some blather about fate and destiny in an attempt to make it gel. But it doesn't gel. At all.

The ratings will force them to wrap up the story this season, so I'll keep watching I guess. But I think this should be chalked up to "an idea they should have never tried to translate to TV."

Better luck to V for its return. At least there's a premise that should do fine on TV, if they can get their act together.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

I still have no idea why ABC didn't keep V until the mid-season. What was the point of airing 4 out of 12 episodes for the season and then going on a break for four months and then finishing up the last 8? Wouldn't it have made more sense to have 12 straight weeks of it as a mid-season show?

I'm hopeful that some interesting things will happen in the last 8 episodes of V, but I think the show will come back to much lower ratings after the pretty boring first 4 episodes and a 4 month layoff.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

^ Because they had already massively pimped the show's Fall premiere before they realized that the cock-ups would mean they went into the series with next to nothing in the can.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

The thing about FlashForward is that if you can't get what's interesting about Gil Bellows and what's-her-name, even when you have trouble remembering what her name is, then you've not got enough interest in people to watch character based drama.

Mark is the way he is because he both wants and doesn't want the vision to come true. This is a rare case of ambiguity and as usual it is virulently distasteful to most of the audience.

Lots of people seemed to like all the melodrama, which I thought was ignorant Dark Knight Returns horseshit, with Campos as the Joker. Except that it was actually Flosso doing the Joker, except that this guy actually got the kind of employee feedback the movie Joker should have got. (On second thought, since Mrs. Goyer is doing this now, maybe there is a little matrimonial criticism going on here?)

Let me just ask how, even if there were some good reason for Campos to be in a stadium during the blackout, he gets back to Canada untraceably when he's killed his ride? Or how he's going to not be in serious trouble when the cops find dead Flosso and dead friend in truck?

The studio panicked and told them to dumb it down. Dumb it is.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

Before this episode I was barely paying attention to this show, but this ep was fantastic! Major revelations, hints of broader interesting story, the entire backstory and character of Charlie (using the LOST name) was great, great stuff. Nice to finally have a proper villain.
 
Re: FlashForward: "Revelation Zero, Parts 1 and 2" 3/18/10 - Grade/Dis

I wish that Flashforward's amazing production values would be matched by equally good writing on a regular basis.
 
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