First Trek To hit the 1/4 Billion mark!

[Quest_techie]

inflation plays a major part in the differences in total box office

used to be you could go to a first run movie for $3, now, it's ~9 just about everywhere.

that has a huge impact on the box office prices.

edit: I do appreciate someone already got this, but I don't properly buy the adjusted for inflation prices.

that's just using a very specific single variable metric to "adjust for inflation" in most cases, and it's more complicated than that.

 

[Ghrakh]

ST:TMP  1,002 theaters        1970     203,211,926 / 3,692,492,000        
ST:TVH  1,956 theaters        1980     226,545,805 / 4,434,682,000         
ST:XI  4,053 theaters          2000    281,421,906 / 6,070,581,000

Just sayin.

 

[The Wormhole]

^Saying that people want to see the movie means we're not acknowledging its flaws?

I guess so. Look, I post on Trek BBS. It should be obvious that I am an irrational bastard who feels anyone with a differing opinion to mine is a form of subhuman.

Now why don't you sewerr rats leave me alone while I prepare a big long rant about Rick Berman and Brannon Braga posessing more integrity and conviction than Abrams and his Cohorts. Also, B&B's products had more depth and complexity than Trek XI...

 

[RoJoHen]

^Saying that people want to see the movie means we're not acknowledging its flaws?

I guess so. Look, I post on Trek BBS. It should be obvious that I am an irrational bastard who feels anyone with a differing opinion to mine is a form of subhuman.

Now why don't you sewerr rats leave me alone while I prepare a big long rant about Rick Berman and Brannon Braga posessing more integrity and conviction than Abrams and his Cohorts. Also, B&B's products had more depth and complexity than Trek XI...

Do what you gotta do.

 

[TrekGuide.com]

You can use inflation and statistics to prove just about any position.

What I'd like to see is a comparison of the actual number of tickets sold for each movie -- i.e., the total butts-in-seats tally. I think that would be more indicative of popularity than the gross revenue generated by each film.

Also, the fact that, in this economy, people are willing to shell out $10 for a movie ticket says a lot more than if people were willing to pay full price for a ticket in 1979 or 1986, regardless of inflation.

Does "adjusted for inflation" mean inflation of the economy in general, or specifically the inflation of ticket prices, regardless of the rest of the economy?

 

[RoJoHen]

I can't speak to the accuracy of the numbers. All I know is:

TNG movies were seen by me, my parents, and my two siblings.
nuTrek was seen by me, my parents, my two siblings, my aunt and uncle, and 4 of my best friends (one of which saw it twice).

That's all the statistics I need.

 

[Borgminister]

DVD sales are also a factor. It is difficult to compare Fuji to Cameo apples...

 

[Amaris]

You can use inflation and statistics to prove just about any position.

What I'd like to see is a comparison of the actual number of tickets sold for each movie -- i.e., the total butts-in-seats tally. I think that would be more indicative of popularity than the gross revenue generated by each film.

Also, the fact that, in this economy, people are willing to shell out $10 for a movie ticket says a lot more than if people were willing to pay full price for a ticket in 1979 or 1986, regardless of inflation.

Does "adjusted for inflation" mean inflation of the economy in general, or specifically the inflation of ticket prices, regardless of the rest of the economy?

Good question. I'm seeing several sets of numbers "adjusted for inflation" and they all vary. TMP alone has two sets of adjusted numbers. One of them says "203 million cumulative", one says "239 million cumulative" and the other says "389 million cumulative". Which one is it?

J.

 

[Cyrus]

I don't understand the comments that say inflation is helping the new movie. That's what those adjusted for inflation numbers are for, taking inflation out of the picture. It's still not an apples to apples comparison since there are other factors than inflation. But if it's already #2 Trek movie on the "adjusted for inflation worldwide numbers" after less than 3 weeks then it's a smash box office hit and no amount of negative spin can change that.

And those adjust for inflation rankings basically mean ranking based on the number of tickets sold, since the inflation adjustments are based on the average ticket prices.

 

[CoveTom]

Also, the fact that, in this economy, people are willing to shell out $10 for a movie ticket says a lot more than if people were willing to pay full price for a ticket in 1979 or 1986, regardless of inflation.

Are you at all aware of what the economy looked like in 1979? Holy crap. That's when the combination of interest rates, unemployment and inflation had gotten so bad that they had to create a new measure -- the 'misery index.' So the fact that people are willing to shell out the money to see the movie in 2009 says no more than the fact that people were willing to shell out the money in 1979.

 

[MvRojo]

As you will see from this, This Trek has gone where no Trek has gone before.
With the total box office take worldwide growing to 30% foreign share at over $75 million. If it it follows First contact that could grow to as high as 40% when it's all said and done. But as of May 23/09 we can safely say that this Trek has crossed over the $250 million mark in worldwide ticket sales.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=startrek11.htm
Till May 22/09

Crap and it hasn't even opened in Japan yet, where Trek is actually well received! That's a 50 million dollar market.

~String

Actually, Trek isn't very popular in Japan at all. There was a whole article in Geek magazine explaining how the fanbase of Trek is almost non-existent in Japan.

 

[Borgminister]

Dang... might not make it to 100 mill then...

 

[fresh]

Trek XI achieving this august status over the other films is by no means a reflection of its "superior quality," simply a result of price inflation.

No it's a clear indication that people want to see this film. Via either advertising, word of mouth, or extremely positive reviews.

I like this. Everyone is harsh on the "bashers" as being blind to the movie's "Greatness", while you "gushers" are equally blind to any of the movie's flaws.

Simple fact: Inflation played its part in Trek XI's 1/4 Billion achievement. You can say it's because it's an awesome movie that people want to see, and yes, maybe there are numerous people who want to see it. But, had this been several years ago, and the same amount of people saw it as are seeing it now, it would have reached 1/4 Billion so quickly. Inflation is the key element here. Denial of this proves you're too into the movie, and an Abrams Fanboy.

You're only partly right, yes price inflation has driven this movie up ... but it will shortly be the #1 movie of the year for the moment, likely top 5 for the year and a critical success.
Most Treks were not able to outsell the various movies with which they competed.
Those are all ingredients for success at the box office, and price inflation is only part of it.

 

[dave_R_treker]

Its unbelievable, Star Trek has made almost what all four TNG movies brought in compined. A few more weeks, and it will surpass it.

 

[trampledamage]

Well if money taken isn't a good indication, has anyone ever tracked actually how many tickets were sold?

 

[dave_R_treker]

Well if money taken isn't a good indication, has anyone ever tracked actually how many tickets were sold?

I as wondering that myself, and was going to ask that as well. I would also like to know, how much of that movie ticket we pay for goes to the movie studio and how much of it goes to the movie theater?

 

[Lumen]

You can use inflation and statistics to prove just about any position.

What I'd like to see is a comparison of the actual number of tickets sold for each movie -- i.e., the total butts-in-seats tally. I think that would be more indicative of popularity than the gross revenue generated by each film.

Should we not also then adjust for population growth?

 

[Dream]

Well if money taken isn't a good indication, has anyone ever tracked actually how many tickets were sold?

I as wondering that myself, and was going to ask that as well. I would also like to know, how much of that movie ticket we pay for goes to the movie studio and how much of it goes to the movie theater?

Very little. During the first two weeks all the money usually goes to the studio while the movie theater starts to get a smaller percent that gets bigger and bigger every following week. Movie theaters stay in business mostly from selling popcorn and other foods.

 

[Lumen]

I figure that's why it costs three times as much to eat in a movie theatre.

 

[dave_R_treker]

I figure that's why it costs three times as much to eat in a movie theatre.

There is this familly owned theater in a town near I live. Its a one screen theater. Sometimes a movie opens there, sometimes it may be a week or sometimes two. (Some movies obviously don't get shown there). Star Trek just started this past friday. Well its only $5.00 adult ticket, $4.00 childrens. The concession stand prices are the lowest around. Candy is not that much more then if you would buy them in a supermarket or convient store.