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First-timer's impressions of seasons 1-3

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In the Flesh

Oh yeah. An episode where a Voyager male gets some manly things to do. Gotta appreciate those. It only lacked some fist-fighting action to be perfect.

This is no Unforgettable, Chakotay and Valerie actually work and their dialogue is actually interesting to pay attention to.

There's also that humanizing species 8472 thing going on - the whole "perhaps we just misunderstood each other" thing... well, I liked how both sides feared each other, with species 8472 giving perhaps too much credit for humans.

But, this episode also felt really really old. Very eighties. And there is that unfortunate aspect of: "You just have too much Alpha Quadrant in my Delta Quadrant!"

I guess Delta Quadrant is pretty much dead now for the show, as more and more Alpha Quadrant things show up. I long for the good old days when Vidiians ripped people's faces off.

But it was fun to see Chakotay doing some manly espionage, and this episode tops Night and Extreme Risk in overall quality.

Non-related character moments: This was also the first time I fully realized that Seven&Doctor relationship mostly exists in the head of the Doctor. Seven is just so oblivious to Doctor sharing life wisdom with her.
 
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Once Upon a Time

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Well, this is definitely an episode that wouldn't have been done on TNG or TOS. Not that it doesn't remind some of TNG episodes, just it's style is so away from those worlds...

This episode really does just pretend too much. It was funny at times in an unintentional way.

However, I liked Neelix, Naomi and that holonovel. The holonovel part was my favorite. And I've grown to like Neelix lately.

But it's just that whole drama aspect "oh noes, your mama is in danger and Neelix is angry at the heavens, rages his fist against the cruel fates who would play with mortal souls in such a way, just to amuse themselves for a brief 5 seconds" was just too funny. It just pretended too much.

But I really liked the holonovel. And Neelix&Naomi thing is very sweet.

But this was just so... so... such.. a... It was like this -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Roi36JIhw. Not that episode itself, but the beginning of that episode. That beginning was a parody, but this episode was that beginning done seriously. A safe family show with lots of tv drama and tv moral situations and analogues are used to replace real things and...

It was 7th Heaven - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQdG3_x6xIM

I researched a bit and it seems that Naomi and some other kids will come to dominate this show in season 6-7. I wonder if those seasons will become 7th Heaven-like because of this.

There also seems to be a pattern of sorts in this season: average episode (because of ending) - great episode (Drone - so beautiful, so sad) - average episode (because of ending) - great episode - average episode (because it just pretended too much). So I guess the next episode must be a great episode.
 
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The thing about "In the Flesh" that bothered me was the whole "your realm is unpure" bit from "Scorpion." How was that a misunderstanding? It's my understanding that TPTB were contemplating having VGR go to war with 8472 beginning with this episode, so maybe the ending was a copout to undo this? I'm glad another 8472 war didn't happen, as it would have made Voyageri seem unnecessarily powerful once again.

Still... I don't know - defanging 8472 just felt wrong.

And I liked "Once Upon A Time." I can see where you're coming from. FWIW, I don't think the show became 7th Heaven-y later on. Stay tuned.

Both these episodes each have a very strong point - they give underused characters (Chakotay and Neelix) something to do.
 
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Timeless

Well, it seems my pattern turned out to be true - mediocre,great,mediocre,great,mediocre,great - as this was a great episode. But still, you just have too much Alpha Quadrant in my Delta Quadrant. Poor DQ, so underused.

I've been told (well I've read) that Timeless is one of the best Voyager episodes ever.

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I liked Drone and In The Flesh better.

But finally Kim gets a good episode. His last one was The Chute. This of course is cooler than Chute. But I liked Chute also better. Perhaps I was too pre-hyped?

But this was pretty cool. It also followed up from the promise of a more confident Harry from Demon.

Actually Voyager really is a Harry show. Everythin else was just a filler. It's about an unsuspecting and young ensign, eagerly awaiting his first job, getting lost in DQ, and the first thing after waking up he is subdued to alien experiements, and then he makes friends and dies. And then manages to kill himself by falling into outer space. But fortunately he had a duplicate who came to replace him. And then he was in jail, got attacked by 8472 and then was duplicated again. And now he destroyed Voyager, personally reset the timeline and got a love-letter from his future self. There is a hidden philosophical meaning somewhere in all of this.

I call this show Star Trek: The Mysterious Travels of Harry Kim and the Universe. It's a clever and subtle philosophical show with a dash of Neil Gaiman/Terry Pratchett sense of life.

Geordi seems to be a really good captain. He has the dignity and the open-minded disposition towards understanding of Picard and perhaps an extra sense of warmth. I really enjoyed the ending part between him and Chakotay.

Harry's guilt was believable and captivating. Tom seemed to be a bit out of character. And that bit between Doctor&Seven revealed to me what a beautiful relationship that actually is and how brilliantly it has been done (but more of it later in mid-season impressions).

And was that music I heard in this episode? Oh sweet music, how I long for these brief moments with you in Star Trek.
 
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Infinite Regress

I've been told (well I've read) that this show becomes a Janeway, Doctor and Seven show in it's later seasons. Well, as this was the first this kind of an episode, let me welcome you to the first review of the new Star Trek show called:

Star Trek: The Captain, The Doctor and The Borg.


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Most people know about TNG, DS9, Voyager and ENT, but very few know that there was also an another Star Trek show.

The pilot episode Infinite Regress hearkens back to the old days when Trek shows didn't need fancy 90 minute long pilots. Of all the new Trek shows, it's pilot is far more simpler and perhaps even more intimate because of this.

We begin with seeing a beatiful blonde woman (who strongly resembles gothic cathedrals) sneaking herself a midnight snack. But not everything is as it seems, as when we're shown her reflection - a klingon male! What could this all be about? It was a brilliant teaser and captures the viewer immediately.

One of the criticisms that can be said about Star Trek: The Captain, The Doctor and The Borg is that it uses the same theme music with Voyager. That was a dissapointment to me, as when humming it I discovered that I had hummed it before.

Then we're taken to a scene in the conference room, in where a random non-regular introduces us to the problem of this episode. There seems to some sort of borg signal coming from somewhere that they want to avoid and also the local cook is having trouble with missing food. I liked how they played it out as sort of a casual happening. It seems that CDB (from now on short for Captain, Doctor and Borg) is more "intimate" than other Trek shows with all of their social utopia, philosophical themes and political conflicts. It's more everyday human.

And as we are just about to get a sense of this "everyday human" approach, we are following a kid... or more precisely, we are following with a kid (a small girl) one of the main cast members - the Borg. With a brilliant camera work we are given that wonderful other perspective... and when the girl is discovered, we startle with her and are somewhat frightened by the Borg.

Let me make a pause here to say that Scarlett Pomers is one of the most brilliant child actors I've seen. Her response is just so natural.

It's a brilliant way to introduce us more closely to both character's. Naomi's childlike curiosity is a strike contrast to Seven's (the Borg's name) matter-of-fact behaviour and it gives us a good impression of the character, so that when we see Seven suddenly changing her behaviour we know that something is wrong.

Also that interaction reveals that Naomi is a bit lonely, a revelation that will come to play later.

Seven becomes all child-like and plays with Naomi, until she is called away to her duties. She is startled to find herself in Naomi's quarters and hastes to her duties in bedazzlement. There she gets sick again and initates a mating ritual with the local klingon woman by bitting her. That scene also reveals that there is a bit of tension between Seven and B'Elanna (the klingon woman), who is kinda like the Scotty of this show.

Seven starts to change characters in a regular manner and the entire ship is on alert - which shows us that there is a bit of concern about her borg past - and Jeri Ryan's wonderful acting here, her tender fragile voice asking: "Did I do something bad?" shows us what a mess she really is.

Then we're taken to the sickbay, where we are shown the other important character of the trio of this show - The Doctor. We are also given a bit of backstory about Seven which immediately captures imagination... I must say, I really like how CDB's pilot starts in the middle. The character's already know each other, they already have a bit of history together... and I like this approach. It makes us wonder.

Anyway, The Doctor and Seven start to search for the cause of the problem. Their interaction shows that the Doctor is somewhat in love with her... or perhaps it's just assuming too much by a few interactions from the pilot. But he is very tender and gentle with Seven, while Seven seems to be mostly unaware. And I think I saw real pain in his eyes later when Seven was losing herself in the collective voices of all the people's she had assimilated.

Meanwhile the local cook brings Seven a picture from Naomi... this interaction reveals him to be a simple-minded but kind man.

The problem is now revealed - there is a the heart of a borg cube floating in space, and it is infected with a virus that triggers this sort of chaos in a borg mind. And Seven being a former borg, can't escape it.

But be it far from me to spoil it for you, but this episode culminates in a wonderful scene with powerful directing and performances, where Seven is lost in the chaos of her mind and the lone brave security officer is trying to save her with his major mental skills... and all those lost souls... those were some hellish images. I was a bit surprised that it was the security officer that saved her, as he left me the impression of a non-important random character, but I guess this show wants it's O'Brien's from the beginning.

After Seven is rescued, and by now we have seen her as a little fragile girl lost in forces bigger than her, she tries to make contact with Naomi and we are immediately warmed by that contact between two people.

So what can be said. It's a wonderful pilot. It introduces all the regulars quite nicely. There's the Doctor, the local simple-minded but kind cook, the sweet girl Naomi all alone in the ship, the tortured by past former borg Seven and the Captain. These main characters alone show us that this show has radically different from the past Trek shows. It’s a show of us small folk, of our personal quirks and these wonderful little connections we make or try to make with other small folks. It’s Star Trek of the people, not Star Trek of the philosopher. And that to me is a wonderful refreshment from all those social utopias and political conflicts.


I expect big things from The Captain, The Doctor and The Borg.

But seriously now. I quite enjoyed this episode and it was refreshing to see Seven using different voices. However, that catsuit is all fine when she is being all gothic cathedral, but when she is playing a more human and active character that catsuit just looks so ridiculous on her – the scene where she’s a ferengi comes to mind.

Also whenever an episode is as Doctor, Janeway and Seven like this one was I will also „review“ it as a part of that new Star Trek series I made up.

I usually don’t notice tv show directors, but this David Livingstone has captured my eye.
 
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Nothing Human

Isn't it just convenient that there happens to be a bajoran on board just on the same day when the Doctor plays with holographic cardassians.

I find cardassians to be really scary. Not in the sense that I hide under my blanket whenever a cardassian is on screen, but they give away that unsettling dangerous disturbing eerie feeling... for a sec there, I was glad Voyager was lost in DQ, away from all those scary cardassians, being all about family and laughter. Then I remembered when Vidiians ripped people's faces off... Voyager you sure have changed.

And this cardassian doctor also made me feel very uneasy. However I did find all the hate a bit ridiculous, since he was just a hologram.

This was Jeri Taylor's last script...ever. According to IMDB she hasn't done any writing since. Pity, as this was no Drumhead. But it really felt like a Jeri Taylor script, and I like that feel. I've missed this kind of moral plays. It was certainly refreshing from the overtly comic book feel of the past season (and this too so far).

I just... found it a bit confusing, that is all. But I liked the feel of this episode. Much-needed change.

And you still have too much AQ in my DQ!
 
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30 Days

Tom is a wonderfully likeable character. But he never has gotten a good episode. In fact, usually they're pretty bad. And so season 5 brings us the first good and the best Tom episode ever - 30 Days.

Yes, there has been no mention of Tom liking the seas before... but this didn't feel out of character. In fact, usually Tom's episodes twisted his character, but this one twisted his interest and is the most Tom Paris of Tom Paris episodes. The first really Tom Paris episode in fact. And also the best one.

Season 5 might have too much AQ in my DQ, but it also has given me almost as much candidates for favorite episodes in it's first half than some seasons.

I also was very impressed by the character of Riga. Or perhaps his actor... he just was so sympathetic and his eyes...

I really wanted Tom&Riga to succeed. I wonder if Janeway reacted so harshly because she lacks that sort of natural authority. I wonder if Picard might have gone easier on Tom, or kept it less public at least.

And of Riga, we have no idea.

Wonderful.
 
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Counterpoint

So this is Kate Mulgrew's favorite episode...hmm. You know, I first dreaded to watch this episode since it was sold to me as a Janeway&Man episode, and while it might be hypocritical of me, as I do enjoy watching Chakotay or Tom with any kind of women... well I dreaded what if the man is a smug annoying oh please kind of guy. And he was. But fortunately on the likeable side.

Their interplay was very enjoyabele to watch, however I did find the plot to be to predictable. The interplay was to me the only remarkable thing about this episode.

Otherwise I found it to be a little on the meh side. I can understand why Kate likes it. The whole battle of wits thing - trust and exploited weakness. It makes for excited acting and it showed.

Best scene of the episode - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihl3ACv0FBM
 
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Star Trek: The Captain, The Doctor and The Borg

Episode 2: Latent Image

Whoa Nelly. This new Star Trek show is just getting stronger and stronger, and now it's so strong that it can kill a man just by looking at it. It's been a long time, getting from there to here... but finally we're back to strong central characters and a classic trio. And this is great because all ensemble Star Treks have always given someone the short end of the stick... Voyager is particulary well-known for it.

What essentially CDB is doing is that it's focusing on each member of the trio, but in reverse... the pilot was the Borg episode and it's second episode is the Doctor episode.

The greatest thing about CDB is that it starts in the middle. I don't know about you, but I find it more stimulating for the imagination. As the pilot, this episode also deals with something we have no chance to see because it happened before the show even started - and this time it's because the crew keeps a dark secret from the Doctor.

CDB is a true believer in show, don't tell... as it doesn't explain things and as it did away with 3 seasons of finding itself, but throws us immediately into the good stuff, into the essence of characters, shows us how they deal with the consequences of the past and thus lets us understand the characters as how we need to understand them for this show...

For example, if this episode would have had like 5 seasons of background I don't know if this would have been as powerful... the essence of unknowing, that's what this is all about.

CDB is filled with real people with interesting complex pasts and rather than describe all that past to us so we could get an idea of the character, we are made to feel that past and thus feel the character. We feel the characters right from the beginning, we feel their complexities, their complex pasts, their complex relationships with each other - tell me, has any other Trek done this right from the beginning? No.

I say, with just 2 episodes, CDB proves itself to be the most character-strong Star Trek yet. Just right from the beginning we have a kind holographic doctor who believes himself to be a part of the crew and who is genuine affection towards the Borg; just right from the beginning we are shown that while the crew mostly treats the Doctor as part of the crew, they don't actully think of him like that, as we were shown in some pretty frightening scenes in this episode; and just right from the beginning we are shown that the lone brave telepathic security officer is actually a really frightening yes man... and I could continue this on and on, but I leave some of these wonderful subtleties and complexities for you to discover.

Bravo. Continue doing this and CDB will conquer it's rightful title as the best Trek show ever.

But now of Latent Image as a part of Star Trek: Voyager.

Even as part of Voyager I would give it such high praise, but as part of Voyager it has a bit of that nasty retroactive continuity going on - like making up a dramatic character of the past just in the last minute.

But other than that, this is probably my most favorite Doctor episode ever.

The scenes showing what the crew really thinks about the Doctor, triggered my memory and I remembered how in the beginning of the Voyager the Doctor was an unpleasant man... due to exactly the crew treating him like that and how it was Kes that started to channel Doctor's humanity...

Basically, what I'm trying to say that I forgot that Doctor wasn't always this "a man in peace with himself". And also that I'm going to do some retrospective viewing of first seasons soon (probably when I'm in season 6, since that also does some of that... and so me and season 6 can compare). The Doctor is probably the most subtly growing character in Voyager and lately I've been growing more and more aware of the genuine affection that Doctor feels towards Seven, and I think Seven is responding to that in some level...

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Bride of Chaotica!

I've really really enjoyed Captain Proton's Adventures throughout this season. I thought it was the best thing ever and a really brilliant contribution to Star Trek from Voyager. And naturally I couldn't wait for the episode which would be all about Captain Proton and Chaotica because it would obviously be coolness redefined. Only it wasn't. It was pretty boring and painful actually.

I don't really know what went wrong. Perhaps Captain Proton is meant to be consumed in only small doses. It just wasn't as cool or funny or brilliant as it was supposed to be. I did have some chuckles here and there. And Satan's Robot is such a cute character.

I think what this episode needed was more pretty women and Tom Paris and less Trek. Somehow it managed to come off as too routine. But despite this episode, Captain Proton is still brilliant stuff.

And now, we've come to first-timers mid-season impressions section.

First-timer's impressions of season 5 mid-season edition!

Season 5.... sigh. Well season 5 went to a radically different approach right from the beginning. With season 4 I always talked about how crew-ish the season is, and it was. But season 5 is not crew-ish. True it does balance episodes between it's cast - B'Elanna episode, Chakotay episode, Neelix episode, Seven episode, Tom episode, and so on - but it's not as fluidic as season 4.

For example, season 4 had a lot of these random scenes that gave everyone a presence, then in season 5 an episode mostly focuses on one character and the rest are non-existent. For example, Chakotay has been ever since Timeless so non-existent. And I mean really non-existent. When with past seasons I said that sometimes this and this was more in the background, then "this and this" still did something that justified a name in opening credits. And Chakotay is not the only one.

On the other hand - season 5 has also given some top episodes for each character. Drone - best Seven episode ever; Latent Image - best Doctor episode; Thirty Days - best (and first that can be actually called good) Tom episode; Timeless - cool Kim episode. And even the episodes that weren't as good gave their characters some really good scenes. For example the diner dialogue between Neelix and B'Elanna in Extreme Risk.

And Chakotay had a good episode - In the Flesh - much more successful "Chakotay flirts" episode than Unforgettable.

So, to put it shortly, season 5 has so far given Voyager some really really brilliant episodes and all characters have had good scenes and some characters had their best episodes ever.

And on the minus side, season 5 is less fluidic and crewish than season 4. So when in season 4 everyone was noticeable, then in season 5 some characters have disappeared completely from some episodes.

Previously I used Chakotay as an example. But this also holds true for B'Elanna who was pretty much non-existent after Extreme Risk and Tuvok... Tuvok who has been non-existent in all of these episodes so far, as he hasn't got his episode yet. Damn it, I want my Tuvok episode. You have 9 characters and you can't give them all an episode in 12 episodes?

Which brings us to another minus - more and more focus on Janeway, Doctor and Seven. I did some special reviews for episodes that really made them into a trio, but there's also this fact that Doctor, Janeway and Seven have had like two episodes for each of them, while other characters only one and Tuvok zero. Tuvok has been the biggest victim of season 5.

So, in essence, despite some most awesome episodes ever, I'm not really happy with season 5 and I much prefer the season 4 approach of giving a presence to all characters.

+ many most awesome episodes ever
+ every character (except Tuvok) has gotten an episode
+ those episodes have been pretty damn good, or even if on the average side, they've had some pretty damn good scenes
+ Captain Proton
+ Scarlett Pomers
+ I now really like Neelix

neutral: a noticeable shift towards Star Trek: The Captain, The Doctor and The Borg (neutral because despite the injustice to other characters, these really CBD episodes have been pretty damn good)

- Tuvok has had no episode so far
- Janeway, Doctor and Seven have had two episodes (for each of them), while others only one
- Most characters disappear completely after their episodes
- did away with season 4's "crew approach"
- too much Alpha Quadrant in Delta Quadrant
- growing a bit stale
 
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Gravity

Tuvok, baby, you're back. In a really stupid episode. But at least it was about my favorite vulcan. A really stupid episode. Seriously, I can't even begin to describe the stupidity.

Why was this episode stupid? There was just too many things and some problems seemed to be invented out of their arses. Like Tom doing: "You have to love her Tuvok!" And the girl doing: "Love me!" And Tuvok doing: "No I can't! I'm married!" And Voyager doing: "We have this space anomaly and evil aliens of the week!" And then there was this finale and the girl went out and Tuvok had a change of heart and saved the girl....and... there was just so many different ways to do this episode in a better way.

For example: just Tuvok and Paris, two guys on a planet, no girl, no Voyager.

Or: just Tuvok and the girl, no Paris, no Voyager.

The planet scenes just didn't get enough attention and the whole Voyager stuff gave less time to the planet scenes and thus the whole episode felt really stupid. Besides, I've already seen this episode in Voyager before. It's pretty much Alter Ego meets Innocence.

But I like my Tuvok. Tuvok rules! While the kid Tuvok made some lines a bit too funny, he really felt like Tuvok for most of the time.

And what I hate about these 7-year long Trek shows is that they give us these things like Delaney sisters, Tuvok's childhood, or whatever TNG analogue to those, somewhere in mid-season 5-7. Why not give this character stuff right from the beginning and then build on that? TNG did a lot of that too, I'm just right now too tired to think of examples.
 
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Star Trek: The Captain, The Doctor and The Borg

Episode 3: Bliss

When TNG reached it's 3rd episode it gave us Code of Honor. When Voyager reached it's 3rd episode it gave us Time and Again (okay so this wasn't horrible, just medicore). Point is, 3rd episodes are never good and sometimes they are so horrible that there will still be people in 100 years going: "Oh my god, remember the October of 1987, now that was a horrible episode."

So everyone had the right to fear what terrors of the unimaginable this Trek show would unleash upon us. Coming as a surprise to all of us, this episode turned out to be quite good. True, it is not as good as the previous two, so the "curse of the 3rd episode" still remains.... but I think it shows the inherent excellent quality of brilliance that CDB has, that it's 3rd episode is pretty damn good.

This time the episode focuses on Seven. Some of you have criticized this, because the pilot was already a Seven episode. True, but this one has also the little lonely girl and Doctor. And a wonderful guest character who is an homage to every character he reminds you off.

We begin the episode with a gruffy sailor type person shaking his fist at the fates and heading into something alive and scary.

Then the episode finally reveals what is actually going on in this show. It seems that the crew is lost in Delta Quadrant and are looking for a way home. Truly, this was a brilliant way to do it. Keep us in secret what and where the ship is. It threw us immediately into the middle of relationships, and this casual revelation done in a casual manner... it's the greatest thing ever. Truly brilliant.

So this crew finds a wormhole that can take them home. They start to reveal letters from home that all promise them full pardon (it seems that some of the crew are what you call... outlaws) or a wonderful career, but we the viewers suspect something is not what it seems. And so does Seven. And the crew turns against her.

Like Doctor in Latent Image, this episode reveals that Seven is not fully accepted either by this crew. Both two main characters are outsiders. And the crew is just waiting for something bad to happen. They're always on their guard deep inside. Humanity may have evolved, but the tendecy to prejudice and shun still remains. I think this is a wonderful aspect to the show.

Of course Seven is right and the crew was actually heading towards certain death. What follows are glimpses of many character's desires... also nice way to give us an understanding of these various non-meaningful characters. Like to lone vulcan security officer, who has awful yes man tendencies, is shown to heading towards his wife... this background mostly silent character is given such attention! Amazing!

The only other character who remains unaffected by these illusions of desire is the cute girl we saw from the pilot episode. Truly a wonderful actor and character. Together with Seven, Doctor and that gruffy sailor they discover inside this beast they save the day in an entertaining finale.

It was far more fun-oriented than the previous two, but even this had something meaningful to say. Before the credits, we are shown how the gruffy sailor again sails into the beast... towards certain death. Deep.

And now of Bliss as part of Star Trek Voyager.

This turned out to be a surprisingly entertaining episode, despite the overwhelming feeling that I have seen this episode before. The first half just was so old and boring and I pretty much went "Oh God!" all the tme, but it managed to pull away from that and ended on an entertaining note. I really loved that Morgan Sheppard character. Have to check if that guy has done anything else interesting. This what I love about Star Trek... you often get this really wonderful guest actors doing some really wonderful performances. Unknown to the world but at least I got to enjoy their performances because I watched Trek. Morgan Sheppard, Paul Boehmer, Henry Woronicz, James Sloyan - to just to name a few that really wowed me.
 
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Dark Frontier

It's amazing. A week passes and I have no recollection of time passing. These kinds of weeks are not just good. Oh it feels so good to watch Voyager again, after this kind of tiresome week. And what you know, it's the feature-length episode too.

Star Trek Voyager: Dark Frontier - A Star Trek Movie

One of the greatest discoveries in the world, is the discovery that there is yet something to explore in the things that you love. Like an unseen movie from your favorite film series. The 90's were so oversaturated with Star Trek that it's not unsurprising that one Star Trek movie was lost between others. And that's why most people think that there were 6 TOS and 4 TNG movies - but there was another.

Well, after seeing it I can see why it remained unknown - most people tought it was just an episode. But so fared Insurrection. It was something that the 90's movies suffered from - they felt too much like average episodes from the series. However, Dark Frontier is probably the most tv-like. And the shortest Star Trek movie with just about 93 minutes.

However it is a very unique film, in that it stays away from action and is more introspective talkative film. Now I've never seen the show this movie is based on, but then again, I've never watched the shows... meaning that I don't know or care if some "important element of the series" was lost in the translation to big screen.

Anyway, like in the series it's based on, the main character of this movie is Seven - the former Borg - and essentially this film is a dark oedipal journey into her being. And it's nice to be in her being too. The main character is the Borg Queen - some of you might remember her from First Contact (however this film is soo different from First Contact) - who is sort of mother figure to Seven. The other character is Seven's lesbian lover - captain Janeway. And there was the flamboyant gay first officer... And that was about it. Oh sure, there were a lot more faces, but like with TNG films, most people will never know who those faces are, and they are just there to be a sort of fanservice. Us normal folk just want our Picard and Data - or in this case - hot lesbian psychodrama.

This movie is full of hot lesbian tension.

Well, essentially, there are this borgs... and this captain wants their technology... so she orchestrates an ambush... and her lover - Seven, sees in a dream that the Borg Queen knows about this plan and has layed a trap. So Seven must choose - sacrifice herself to the Borg for the sake of the crew. You see, it's like this that the captain freed her from the Borg. And this flamboyant gay native american guy smiled all the time. And everyone was happy. But now, if Seven really loves these people she has to go back to the hell they saved her from.

So, naturally. Seven chooses love and gets captured by the Borg. And her lover - the captain - is confused, and everyone on the ship think that "once a borg, always a borg." But the captain allows no such thought. She plans to save Seven... again.

And now this is where it gets really interesting. The Borg Queen arrives. And she's sort of former lover/mother figure to Seven. And she wants her help to destroy humanity. And so they talk. And this talk is very awesome, because Susanna Thompson, who plays the Borg Queen, oozes awesome from every pore. She's so sexy, strange, disturbing, sexy - that you wish you was in Seven's place.

The psychological aspect to this is just great. Seven lost her parents in a young age, so both of her lovers are also like parental figures to her. And she can't resist, but she wants to.... and then Janeway comes...and... this is where the film sucks. She just shoots some technobabble thing, takes Seven, and leaves. The End. But... there's a explanation for it. You see, this movie - like Superman 2 - has two directors. The first one Cliff Bole suffered from an artist complex - he used the 1.33.1 resolution for film to imitate Stanley Kubrick, and he builded up the story slowly and carefully. However since he went way over-budget, he was fired and the producers hired a newcomer to end this mess. And the rest is history. The new-comer actually does a good job and pays respect to the former director... but the producers just wanted an "ending - NOW!!!" and that's why it ends so aprubtly. The original script however had a much darker and disturbing (and erotic) ending sequence in plan, that would have made Twin Peaks feel like Hannah Montana.

But even so, despite it's faults - too much like an ordinary tv-episode, producer meddling, dissapointing ending - it's worth watching for the interesting psychological drama and the Queen's performance alone.

.....

Perhaps it isn't as funny as I thought. Anyway. Of Dark Frontier as it exists in our reality. I was kinda dissapointed really. This is more like Killing Game than Year of Hell. Not that impressive as a whole. However there were some really strong points. The psychological aspect for example. The way both Seven's lovers were also replacements for her parents. Erm... I guess my review is affecting me too much right now. Seven's Queens? There was a strong oedipal feel to it. And I liked it.

And boy the Borg Queen is sexy. And awesome. And what made her awesome. Her eyes. Oh my God. Those eyes. The eyeplay. The body language. "Please assimilate me now, please." The philosophical musings. Wonderfully disturbing.

I've made it a plan to check out Book of Daniel and Kings where Susanna Thompson has played (both some cancelled shows I didn't know about, but sound interesting). She was just so good. She made this episode feel like a good episode. Like there was really something important going on.

And then there was the rest of the episode. Frankly I'm not even sure what was the plot or what really happened. But Borg Queen's eyes. :bolian:

And the reason why that „reviewer“ above mistook Chakotay for a flamboyant gay man... I just found Robert Beltran's performance to be so weird and amusing in this episode. Like he was high or something. Chuckling to himself all the time... is this why people call him Chuckles? Well, if it is, then the character of Chuckles was born in season 5.
 
Re: First-timer's impressions of season 5

The Disease

Well, everyone says it's pretty bad... but I enjoyed this episode. The girl was pretty. And there were some character-related things too that enhanced my enjoyment.

Chakotay for example was surprisingly present in this episode... since Timeless. I say, if it weren't for Chakotay Janeway might kill someone.

You see, Janeway in this episode was pretty much the Janeway (I think Janeway is). It's not so much about proper actions or ideals or protocols to her, as her obsessiveness in... whatever she's obsessed at the moment. She takes an obsession in something, and whenever someone acts contrary to whatever she's obsessed in, she might... will bite.

In this episode she was obsessed in the idea of Ensign Kim, and when Ensign Kim failed to comply... you can just feel the rage burning.

However, it is the first time I hear of this kind of protocol. One gets a completely different impression from TNG.

And well, Chakotay bangs alien women all the time too. And I believe, mam, that he even might have banged you. Oh I see, he is your first officer so he has earned the right to do that. I see how that's different, yes. Forgive me, mam. What? Solitary confinement to a brig for 30 days? For mocking a starfleet captain... I protest, I did no such thing... hey, cut it out....

*Tuvok carries unconscious Jimmy Bob to a brig

I liked it more than some other season 5 episodes. Chakotay as voice of reason, Tom&Kim friendship, Janeway and the idea of Ensign Kim, Harry Kim and a woman, people trying to free themselves from traditions they sense to be oppressive – I enjoyed all these parts.
 
I don't understand why this episode is disliked, I think its pretty good.
Don't like the whole plucking protocol out of thin air though.
 
Re: First-timer's impressions of season 5

Course: Oblivion

Of all the dominant traits the duplicate Janeway had to inherit the obsessive trait of the real Janeway. In many ways this episode mirrored the previous – The Disease. A problem rises because Janeway has taken an obsession into something. And like in Disease, the duplicate Chakotay also acts as a voice of reason.

At first while watching it, I found myself thinking that this episode is just a bit too... weird. I'm not against weird, but I have a bit different tase in weird. I like more philosophical abstract weird. But this was technical weird. But by the end I kept my fingers crossed that the duplicate Demon crew would get home. And by the end I was immersed in their tragedy. So kudos for the acting. It was the acting that made this episode believable.

I do hope that the real B'Elanna and Tom wedding is not so corny. But I liked those uniforms. They looked much more uniformy. I think they should have those uniforms all the time.

I recently started watching Samantha Who, and when first in Samantha Who I saw Tuvok playing the doorman Frank, I now see doorman Frank in a Star Trek costume. They are a bit similar characters though... and Tim Russ is really funny in Samantha Who. Cancelled unfortunately. But if there are any who have never heard of SW, then I really recommend it.
 
Re: First-timer's impressions of season 5

Well, Tim Russ gets some nice funny scenes later in the first season.
 
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