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First pic of *edit* full-sized toy props....

Dennis is a kid at heart, and as such is often a lot less jaded and fucked up than the rest of us.

Maybe.. but, I'll be honest. I can't take his opinion seriously anymore. He honestly sounds like a complete shill at this point. Maybe that's unfair of me, but this level of 'everything about this movie is good' is just getting absurd.
 
Oh I know. Just a reaction. :)

It actually reminds me of those old "spark guns", with the spinning wheel
and flint. The clear plastic parts maybe.

I think your right about the chrome. And yes, little kids love stuff like this. :)
(Mine just turned 18, so that was a while ago.)

I have two of those old spark guns right in front of me as I type! - One is clear blue and the other clear green, both with chrome accents.

As far as I can tell, these things have been made from a variety of molds knocked off from other older toolings for forty or fifty years now. The details vary; the current ones are made in China, of course.
 
And it should break after ten uses.

Maybe that's how the redshirt bites it.

The redshirts bite it by agreeing to go into hostile territory in red shirts. :lol:

I'll be honest. I can't take his opinion seriously anymore. He honestly sounds like a complete shill at this point. .

I'll be honest..you're getting to where I've been regarding you for ages. It's not that you sound like a shill; it's just the quality of your work and your thinking as expressed here.
 
Many thanks to those who posted these images and links. You have saved me a lot of money that I will now use on Watchmen movie collectibles and maybe a few Terminator products as well (though not the toys)
 
Because, like, someone could accidentally walk into a store blindfolded and buy these without looking at them if we hadn't posted images here. How did we live before the Internet? :lol:
 
The tricorder looks reasonable. The phaser and communicator are brutal.

If they were going for more realistic and/or cooler than the TOS equivalents, they failed miserably.
 
That phaser looks a heckuva lot like the ones from Star Trek V.

Naah, I LIKE the TFF phaser. This is more like an endoskeletal take on the SFS phaser, sans slick shell.

I just looked again, it made me think of the baddie aliens in GQ, like something they'd be toting.
 
The tricorder looks reasonable. The phaser and communicator are brutal.

If they were going for more realistic and/or cooler than the TOS equivalents, they failed miserably.

I don't know about "cooler," but it would be harder to get less realistic, in current terms, than the original design of the communicator. It's nice that they kept the flip-top, which they obviously did mainly to please fans.
 
Because, like, someone could accidentally walk into a store blindfolded and buy these without looking at them if we hadn't posted images here. How did we live before the Internet? :lol:

You miss the point. This saves me the frequent struggle I have when I happen upon new toys: "To buy, or not to buy." Having seen these pics, I am free of such inner turmoil. And before the Internet, my friend, there were good magazines like Toy Insider. Which, thankfully, is still running in spite of Mr. Gore's glorious contribution to technological innovation.
 
And of course, despite the fact that people like to misrepresent it as some sort of straw man, what Abrams actually has said - several times - in different ways has been this:

The goal of this movie, despite it being called Star Trek, despite the pointy ears and all the established fans and hundreds of hours and almost a dozen movies and all that kind of stuff, we actually feel this is kind of a new thing and this is legitimate. Which is probably the biggest challenge, because it is by default so close to being campy. Like you see Galaxy Quest, which is such a great movie, and it is so — when you are actually on the set doing Star Trek, there are these moments that are like ‘dear God, how do I not make this bad?’ You see how easily you could go the wrong direction and suddenly you are mocking your own world.

Abrams is completely right - including about "Galaxy Quest," which is more watchable than most "Star Trek" movies and certainly about Trek being right on the edge of ridiculous - and the fact that so many Trek fans take umbrage at his observations goes a long way to explain why so very, very few people care much about "Star Trek" any more.

You miss the point.

No, I really didn't. Buying or not buying a toy is not a complicated decision or one fraught with risk - one looks at it, considers the price, buys it or doesn't. Neither a world-wide computer network or specialty magazines are really necessary for something so simple, and there's no need for turmoil to enter into it for anyone over the age of twelve.
 
The tricorder looks reasonable. The phaser and communicator are brutal.

If they were going for more realistic and/or cooler than the TOS equivalents, they failed miserably.

I don't know about "cooler," but it would be harder to get less realistic, in current terms, than the original design of the communicator. It's nice that they kept the flip-top, which they obviously did mainly to please fans.

Of the three I mentioned, the TOS tricorder looks the most unrealistic today. Aside from the moire pattern on communicator "speaker," I don't think it looks all that bad, actually. They could have replaced that with a screen and added some buttons or something. The original phaser "needed" very little tweaking in my opinion. The new one looks terrible.
 
Aside from the moire pattern on communicator "speaker," I don't think it looks all that bad, actually. They could have replaced that with a screen and added some buttons or something.

Well, they could have kept the "pencil-box" profile without any problem. That was nice. The perforated metal grille cover is a dated detail - it's very 1950s-transistor-radio and the invented claim that it's some kind of special "antenna" is just evidence of how useless it otherwise appeared. Cool flip-top action, though.

It's true that adding a video screen makes sense, so there was a use they could put the flip-up to - essentially the same use that modern cellphones make of it - and they did.

The moire disc that everyone seems to agree is a speaker is one of the clearly outdated-looking bits of design. Open your cellphone and find the speaker and the microphone. They really don't require much real estate, do they? The notion that communicators actually are much more powerful and sophisticated devices is (reasonably) advanced by fans as an excuse for a communicator being larger than a cellphone, but that reasoning doesn't extend to plausibly explaining the need for a retro-tech speaker/microphone assembly that are way too big.

And those three teensy-weensy knobs were completely ridiculous. They were not pushbuttons - you notice Kirk or Spock (pretending to) twist those things sometimes on the show? They were tuning knobs of some kind, made so small as to make manipulating them unnecessarily difficult for an adult human being with fingers bigger than Lexa Doig's. :lol:
 
It's nice that they kept the flip-top, which they obviously did mainly to please fans.

Or themselves.

If they're fans. :)

There are so many obvious little nods to older versions of Trek - not just TOS but at least a couple of the TOS-based movies - in all three of these props that the designers either were making an to please fans or are fairly knowledgable fans themselves. Probably both.
 
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