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First look at Caesar from Rise of the Planet of the Apes

I imagine "the kids" today don't even know what Planet of the Apes is. Most never watch films made pre-2000, never mind one from 1968

You might be pleasantly surprised :) For all its faults, the Burton version has a lot of fans both from cinema and dvd. And the original films are shown a lot on TV here. So it's part of the sci-fi/fantasy cultural memory.
 
The 2001 Apes movies was a financial success despite being a crappy movie, and based on a franchise that is over 30 years old.

I don't think that 10 years later they have anything to be worried about on that score.
 
Wait, they're making a new POTA movie? This is the first I've heard of this. I would have hoped that the fact the last one was so terrible would stop them bothering trying again, but apparently that is just an extra enticement in Hollywood today.

That clip looks like a dude in a suit. On one hand, it's impressive that it's good enough to pass for real, but for all the trouble it doesn't look any different to a dude in makeup. Of course it would be stupid of me to make any real judgement based on a 5 second clip, as it shows minimal movement. Hopefully the mouthes will look a lot better in CG, and not just flap around like the prosthetics did.
 
I wasen't really interested in this movie, till now. That looks like an ape realizing it's intellegence perhaps for the first time. This is pretty cool and very realistic looking.
 
when i first heard about the CGI apes i scoffed. but, i'll admit i am impressed with this. i was let down by Burton's movie, i hope this new film will live up to the Apes name.
 
The big question is - are we finally at the stage where we can realistically show the apes throwing poop at each other?

The hero can be giving his big speech and then he gets a mouthful of poop as the audience shows its displeasure. This should be filmed in 48fps and 3d.
 
I guess they want to make a blatent connection to the franchise, but any fan of that would probably know about this anyway, and I imagine "the kids" today don't even know what Planet of the Apes is. Most never watch films made pre-2000, never mind one from 1968
Anyone who's seen The Simpsons knows what Planet of the Apes is.

Dennis said:
There was no good reason to forego the publicity value of the "Planet Of The Apes" title - it's basic marketing, and a studio executive would need to come up with a lot better reason than "we don't need it/people will figure it out" to justify not using it.
"It sounds clunky" is a good enough reason. I guess at first they went for the title which had less of a connection but sounded better, then changed their minds.
 
It also fits the standard naming convention. Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Escape From the Planet of the Apes, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, Battle for the Planet of the Apes...Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
 
I still haven't worked out why Helena Bonham-Carter looked more attractive in ape makeup than in real life.

As for apes getting human pretensions -- I'd prefer to see an adaptation of some of David Brin's Uplift Universe books.
 
I guess they want to make a blatent connection to the franchise, but any fan of that would probably know about this anyway, and I imagine "the kids" today don't even know what Planet of the Apes is. Most never watch films made pre-2000, never mind one from 1968
Anyone who's seen The Simpsons knows what Planet of the Apes is.

Dennis said:
There was no good reason to forego the publicity value of the "Planet Of The Apes" title - it's basic marketing, and a studio executive would need to come up with a lot better reason than "we don't need it/people will figure it out" to justify not using it.
"It sounds clunky" is a good enough reason. I guess at first they went for the title which had less of a connection but sounded better, then changed their minds.
have to agree with Dennis on this issue. it would be a mistake not to utilize the built in marketing and recognition of the 'Apes' name. if people hear about 'Rise of the Apes' they'll be like, 'oh whats that?' they hear 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' and they might be a fan of the old movies or maybe even the Burton film and decide to see 'Rise'.
 
maybe a couple of sequels for a modern day trilogy.
Why does everything have to be a fucking trilogy...

Not everything does, but some properties lend themselves to further explorations of their environment. Despite the declining quality of the original four sequels, there was still a lot of interesting ideas to cover. A new trilogy from this starting point could better explore these ideas, learning from the mistakes of the first time.
 
I really think Weta is one of the best SFX/CGI houses out there and can even at times beat ILM.
 
^wow, really? You guys have gone ape shit crazy...I thought she was still pretty attractive as the queen in the kings speech or in a dirty way as Marla Singer in Fight Club.
 
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