Favourite-looking Cybermen.

[The Mirrorball Man]

The current Cybermen are my favorite. Better design, much better use of the Cybermen concept.

 

[Bones2]

The current Cybermen are my favorite. Better design, much better use of the Cybermen concept.

How so?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The current version, by far the least cheesy.

I'm guessing you only mean in appearance...

Nope. Guess again. There's really nothing much to be said in favor of the old versions.

 

[Bones2]

That's very much a matter of opinion. I'd say the original Cybermen were far more interesting in terms of nature and motivation than the recent clunkers.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

That's very much a matter of opinion. I'd say the original Cybermen were far more interesting in terms of nature and motivation than the recent clunkers.

The original Cybermen were marginally interesting in terms of nature in their first couple of appearances. After that, the core themes associated with the characters have been completely abandoned and the Cybermen have become just another band of space thugs bent on world domination. Some people may call that an "interesting motivation". I call that "crappery".

We had to wait until the new series to find writers at last willing to deal with the themes of dehumanization through technology, loss of identity, the threat of uncontrolled mass production and industrialization, i.e. what was supposed to make the Cybermen scary in the first place.

 

[Orcus]

The Tenth Planet-type for me. Not, perhaps, in eventual realisation (except the 'synthetised' voices/unmoving jaw) but, certainly, in concept. There's nothing scarier than de-humanising medical progress...

 

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[Tom]

^^ now that is some scary shit. i wish they looked like that!

 

[OmahaStar]

Mom?

 

[Mad Jack Wolfe]

The, between your avatar and that Cyberman, I'm gonna have some weird dreams tonight...

 

[Bones2]

We had to wait until the new series to find writers at last willing to deal with the themes of dehumanization through technology, loss of identity, the threat of uncontrolled mass production and industrialization, i.e. what was supposed to make the Cybermen scary in the first place.

Not really. Their first two parter wasn't a patch on The Tenth Planet and was a weak retread of the original idea with bad dialogue and as stupid a resolution we've ever had (emoing out and blowing up, that's what I call "crappery"), and their only other real story was pissing about in Victorian London like tin idiots. Hardly a terrific realisation of the concept.

 

[Peter the Younger]

I grew up on the ones from Revenge, but I always hated the silver overalls. My ideal Cyberman would be something between Revenge and the chunky, clunky Cybus version, suggesting slimmer but powerful cybernetic limbs around an organic head and partially organic torso (similar to the explanation for - but not the appearance of - Robocop's inner workings.) I'd love to have them work it into a story somehow - the fusion of the Mondas cybermen with their AU counterparts. The redesign of the Daleks gives me some pause, though.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Not really. Their first two parter wasn't a patch on The Tenth Planet and was a weak retread of the original idea with bad dialogue and as stupid a resolution we've ever had (emoing out and blowing up, that's what I call "crappery"), and their only other real story was pissing about in Victorian London like tin idiots. Hardly a terrific realisation of he concept.

For obvious reasons I can't take your usual vitriol seriously, but I think it's interesting to note that you're trying to compare this story with The Tenth Planet specifically. It's a telling sign that in the 40 years between these stories, we'd be hard pressed to name any other serial that did anything with the original Cybermen concept.

 

[Davros]

Earthshock Cybermen for me.

 

[Captain Pike]

Not really. Their first two parter wasn't a patch on The Tenth Planet and was a weak retread of the original idea with bad dialogue and as stupid a resolution we've ever had (emoing out and blowing up, that's what I call "crappery"), and their only other real story was pissing about in Victorian London like tin idiots. Hardly a terrific realisation of he concept.

For obvious reasons I can't take your usual vitriol seriously, but I think it's interesting to note that you're trying to compare this story with The Tenth Planet specifically. It's a telling sign that in the 40 years between these stories, we'd be hard pressed to name any other serial that did anything with the original Cybermen concept.

The Moonbase > The Tenth Planet for me. Though they are essentially the same story, and the cybes in TTP look suitably freakish, The Moonbase is better written, gives the doctor more to do and it has PatrickTroughton in it.

 

[diankra]

We had to wait until the new series to find writers at last willing to deal with the themes of dehumanization through technology, loss of identity, the threat of uncontrolled mass production and industrialization, i.e. what was supposed to make the Cybermen scary in the first place.

Not really. Their first two parter wasn't a patch on The Tenth Planet and was a weak retread of the original idea with bad dialogue and as stupid a resolution we've ever had (emoing out and blowing up, that's what I call "crappery"), and their only other real story was pissing about in Victorian London like tin idiots. Hardly a terrific realisation of he concept.

I would very much like to see the original scripts for Rise of the Cybermen, which reportedly showed a more subtle and invidious process. Unfortunately, the rewrites added in a Davros-substitute, lost all the subtlety, and produced one of the worst stories of the new series.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

"Rise of the Cybermen"/"The Age of Steel" was loosely inspired by Big Finish's Spare Parts, which is a wonderfu spiritual continuation of The Tenth Planet and The Moonbase. Unfortunately, the two-parter has very little to do with the audio play.

 

[starsuperion]

actually I would love to see an updated version of the transitional design made famous by this comic, which depicts a cyberman with invasion era body and 10th planet head.. with massive lasers built into their arms..

 

[Jax]

New daleks dont bother me. They look a bit funny from the side, but the colours a fine and they are still daleks. In fact I quite like some aspects of them like the head lights and the eye stalk with it's organic pupil.

Cybermen on the other had have been shafted in new who imo.

I wouldn't mind a re-design of the Cyber-Men, make them lighter/faster on their feet and more humaniod like The Borg. As for The Daleks I feel they look a little more mean and powerful with there bigger shell casings. I think the eye stalk is very cool and there new voice.

 

[Captain Pike]

"Rise of the Cybermen"/"The Age of Steel" was loosely inspired by Big Finish's Spare Parts, which is a wonderfu spiritual continuation of The Tenth Planet and The Moonbase. Unfortunately, the two-parter has very little to do with the audio play.

Yep. The key word in the first sentence of yours there is 'loosley'.

If they had of been more faithful to the original source, then it might not have been as big as a stinker (and maybe not stitched up the cybermen's backstory) as it was.