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Favourite live-action Batman movie

Favourite live-action Batman movie

  • Batman 1989

    Votes: 24 60.0%
  • Batman Returns

    Votes: 14 35.0%
  • Batman Forever

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • Batman & Robin

    Votes: 1 2.5%

  • Total voters
    40
I was always under the impression Gotham was modeled after Boston and Metropolis modeled after NYC. This with NYC and Boston being real cities in the DCU.
Boston isn't that big and didn't have skyscrapers like that-- still doesn't, although there are a some more now than there were when Superman and Batman were created. In fact, both Metropolis and Gotham are modeled after New York, but just different parts (and different impressions) of the city-- that's why it's the city so big they had to name it twice. Gotham is literally a nickname of New York that goes back a couple of hundred years and New York is pretty much the definition of metropolitan.
 
Boston isn't that big and didn't have skyscrapers like that-- still doesn't, although there are a some more now than there were when Superman and Batman were created. In fact, both Metropolis and Gotham are modeled after New York, but just different parts (and different impressions) of the city-- that's why it's the city so big they had to name it twice. Gotham is literally a nickname of New York that goes back a couple of hundred years and New York is pretty much the definition of metropolitan.

Yeah. At this point, Metropolis is basically the light, positive, 'city of the world' side of New York and Gotham is basically the dark, scary, 'mean streets and corruption' side of New York.

Although, unless I'm mistaken, I think that dichotomy was mainly introduced by Frank Miller when he went full post-apocalyptic with Batman in TDKR. I don't really know how the two cities compared side by side before that. Certainly, the Adam West series made Gotham feel more or less like any other city. Maybe a bit less 'modern' and more 'old money' than Metropolis.
 
Boston isn't that big and didn't have skyscrapers like that-- still doesn't, although there are a some more now than there were when Superman and Batman were created. In fact, both Metropolis and Gotham are modeled after New York, but just different parts (and different impressions) of the city-- that's why it's the city so big they had to name it twice. Gotham is literally a nickname of New York that goes back a couple of hundred years and New York is pretty much the definition of metropolitan.
No arguement from me. I always figured Boston for the crime ethnic crime syndicates Batman fights in his city. Italians, Russians, Irish and Americans.

Yeah. At this point, Metropolis is basically the light, positive, 'city of the world' side of New York and Gotham is basically the dark, scary, 'mean streets and corruption' side of New York.

Although, unless I'm mistaken, I think that dichotomy was mainly introduced by Frank Miller when he went full post-apocalyptic with Batman in TDKR. I don't really know how the two cities compared side by side before that. Certainly, the Adam West series made Gotham feel more or less like any other city. Maybe a bit less 'modern' and more 'old money' than Metropolis.

The way Metropolis and Gotham are supposed to work (according to John Byrne) is that Metropolis is Gotham with the lights on. Since you still have crime, gangs, corruption (police, businessmen, officials), super villains and human tragedy stories. The rot is worse in Gotham, for obvious reasons.
 
Denny O'Neil said that (figuratively), "Gotham City is Manhattan below 14th Street at eleven minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November, and Metropolis is Manhattan between 14th and 100th Streets on the brightest, sunniest July day of the year." I can't find any reference to when he said it, but it was probably in the 1980s.
 
Although, unless I'm mistaken, I think that dichotomy was mainly introduced by Frank Miller when he went full post-apocalyptic with Batman in TDKR. I don't really know how the two cities compared side by side before that.
Memory is tricky, but I seem to remember that being the consensus when I was reading back in the 70s. The names alone would suggest it was always intended to some degree, and maybe just enhanced as time went on.

No arguement from me. I always figured Boston for the crime ethnic crime syndicates Batman fights in his city. Italians, Russians, Irish and Americans.
Batman fought the Irish? I'd buy that graphic novel. I'd probably see a lot of people I know. :rommie:

Denny O'Neil said that (figuratively), "Gotham City is Manhattan below 14th Street at eleven minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November, and Metropolis is Manhattan between 14th and 100th Streets on the brightest, sunniest July day of the year." I can't find any reference to when he said it, but it was probably in the 1980s.
That's pretty much perfect.
 
Denny O'Neil said that (figuratively), "Gotham City is Manhattan below 14th Street at eleven minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November, and Metropolis is Manhattan between 14th and 100th Streets on the brightest, sunniest July day of the year." I can't find any reference to when he said it, but it was probably in the 1980s.
So really close to each other?

;)
 
The Dark Knight

It's been so long since I saw any of the others that I can't really remember them, except that I remember thinking that Batman vs. Superman was a pretentious mess.
 
Why is it so hard for people to vote for the OP's choices and only the OP's choices?
Because it's akin to asking what everyone's favorite Wolverine film is, and excluding XMO, The Wolverine and Logan from the voting tally. Or asking what everyone's favorite Iron Man movie is and only having Avengers 1-3 and Spider-Man Homecoming for selections.

Exclusion in a public forum, lead to rebellion by the participants. It's not like TDK trilogy, Batman 66 and BvS are obscure films that most people haven't seen.
 
But just as you said, the other Batman movies are not really obscure, and therefore there's no threat of them being forgotten. The thread starter was pretty clear that this was about the four 80s/90s era movies, so what's so hard to limit the discussion to those four?
 
But just as you said, the other Batman movies are not really obscure, and therefore there's no threat of them being forgotten. The thread starter was pretty clear that this was about the four 80s/90s era movies, so what's so hard to limit the discussion to those four?
The parameters should've been defined in the title. The thread title is "Favoite Live Action Batman Movie". Thereby not limiting the parameters of the discussion to only the 4 films from the 89-97.
 
Because it's akin to asking what everyone's favorite Wolverine film is, and excluding XMO, The Wolverine and Logan from the voting tally. Or asking what everyone's favorite Iron Man movie is and only having Avengers 1-3 and Spider-Man Homecoming for selections.

That's not an equivalent example because those are the ONLY Wolverine films that exist.

Here, the OP limited the Batman film choices to only those that she has personally seen; that's not "pretending that they didn't exist"; it's tailoring this discussion to an avenue that she is personally familiar with, and is not an unreasonable thing to have done.
 
The parameters should've been defined in the title. The thread title is "Favoite Live Action Batman Movie". Thereby not limiting the parameters of the discussion to only the 4 films from the 89-97.
While, ideally, yes, that should be the case, "Your Favorite Live Action Batman Movie Out of These Four That I've Seen So Far" doesn't really work as a thread title.
In any event, the limitations have been made clear by now, If the others were brought up once, it would be understandable, but we're on page four now, and every third post seems to be "'66/TDK/BvS".

And again, we constantly talk about all the Batman movies (especially the more recent ones) around here, as does the whole internet. So why is it so hard to limit the debate to these four films for the sake of this particular thread?
 
That's not an equivalent example because those are the ONLY Wolverine films that exist.
Are you sure? The first 3 X-Men films and the Avengers films have been maligned for disproportionately showcasing Logan and Tony.

Here, the OP limited the Batman film choices to only those that she has personally seen; that's not "pretending that they didn't exist"; it's tailoring this discussion to an avenue that she is personally familiar with, and is not an unreasonable thing to have done.
A better title would've solved this issue. As well as, decrease the number the clicks to the thread.
And again, we constantly talk about all the Batman movies (especially the more recent ones) around here, as does the whole internet. So why is it so hard to limit the debate to these four films for the sake of this particular thread?
Because this is Trekbbs. Where threads are constantly derailed from the topic.
 
From Best to worst:

The Dark Knight

Batman Begins

The Dark Knight Rises

Batman 89
Batman Returns


Batman 66

Batman Forever


Batman and Robin


Batman vs Superman





Justice League

I was getting happy because this is totally the list, until I noticed the hate for the Snyder movies. I actually really enjoyed the extended cut of BVS, and JL (though JL doesn't jive well with BVS)

To update your list, since it's so close to mine, I'd put Begins below Rises, and depending on the cut, BVS either below or above Begins. 66 I'd put where you have JL because I don't like that take on Batman at all.
 
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