Fantastic Four reboot-- Casting, Rumors, Pix, ect;
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How about the other way round? A time travel accident sends them back to the 1960s? Which would certainly explain Reed's "SuperGenius" if he's just pretty damn smart guy from 2016.
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I would prefer it this way as well. Send them back into the 1960 Mad Men kind of setting, changing history. However they can't make it back to the present.
Preserving history?
They have the power to make it a better world!
Save Kennedy, win in Viet Nam, equalize the races and genders, win the space race and then fence off Russia into another 50 states answerable to the US Congress.
Hmmm.
If Doom is trying to stop them, and he's actually from the 1960s, wouldn't that make him the good guy?
They have the power to make it a better world!
Save Kennedy, win in Viet Nam, equalize the races and genders, win the space race and then fence off Russia into another 50 states answerable to the US Congress.
Hmmm.
If Doom is trying to stop them, and he's actually from the 1960s, wouldn't that make him the good guy?
I think FF can easily be done in the present day. none of the problems with the first two movies had to do with them being set in the present, it was just bad writing (although I still like the first one). With writers as good as Marvel's, they could easily make a great FF movie set nowadays. I've never felt like FF was much of a period piece when reading the comics, and really it hasn't had a 60s feel since, well, the 60's 
Just what is it that you hate so much about the previous two movies ? I own them both, and whilst they're not in the same league as the best MCU movies, they're perfectly competent superhero movies.
I'd sy any shortcomings are due to the FF themselves, but then, I've never really been a fan...
Well, I can definitely understand hating FF2. Between "Galactus" being basically a tease and Sue being written like a selfish moron (among other problems), its definitely in the lower tier of superhero movies. FF1 also has a good number of flaws, but I thought it was likeable enough and the cast does a good enough job to make it enjoyable.
The team itself is fine, and with good writers (like John Byrne, Mark Waid or Johnathon Hickman) there are some awesome stories to tell with the team. They definitely don't have a problem as a concept, its how some people write the concept that causes problems.
The team itself is fine, and with good writers (like John Byrne, Mark Waid or Johnathon Hickman) there are some awesome stories to tell with the team. They definitely don't have a problem as a concept, its how some people write the concept that causes problems.
With the Space X and competitions to get space rockets and commercially viable spacecraft into orbit there is nothing that would hinder their origin story. It could very nearly be more faithfully adapted as a present day story than when the first FF film came out.
What would Richard Branson do with Super Powers?
Yeah as cheesy as they are, I still find them a LOT more fun and watchable than Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, or either of the Thor movies.
And not being a big Marvel fan I frankly didn't really have much problem with the depiction of Galactus either. The big issue I think (much like with the Green Lantern movie) was that the movie just felt way too small and cheap for the huge, epic threat the characters were facing off against.
Oh and also Doctor Doom. Even not knowing the comics, I could tell they got THAT totally wrong.
Their Doom, Julian McMahon is an Australian actor who speaks with an Australian accent unless people are paying him not to.
Forcing him to pretend to be American was stupid.
Julian is a fine actor, but Julian is acting left handed when he has to pretend to be a yank.
There was a story recently (god only knows what "recently" means any more.) where Reed goes back in time to check in on Doom's original accident in college where Young Doom fucked up his face. Mr. Fantastic pushes himself slightly out of phase so that he can observe without interfering, only to run smack gob into dozens of other Doctor Dooms (who are also out of phase, and observing.) from cross time who all track their lives back to their origin point, who are HIGHLY unamused by Richards desecrating one of their holiest of holy moments from their personal histories.
Oh.
If you're going to cockblock the Avengers and not let them use the time travelling warlord Kang, at least ####ing use him why don't you, you sack of ####, ###munching wangdoodle yahoos?
Forcing him to pretend to be American was stupid.
Julian is a fine actor, but Julian is acting left handed when he has to pretend to be a yank.
There was a story recently (god only knows what "recently" means any more.) where Reed goes back in time to check in on Doom's original accident in college where Young Doom fucked up his face. Mr. Fantastic pushes himself slightly out of phase so that he can observe without interfering, only to run smack gob into dozens of other Doctor Dooms (who are also out of phase, and observing.) from cross time who all track their lives back to their origin point, who are HIGHLY unamused by Richards desecrating one of their holiest of holy moments from their personal histories.
Oh.
If you're going to cockblock the Avengers and not let them use the time travelling warlord Kang, at least ####ing use him why don't you, you sack of ####, ###munching wangdoodle yahoos?
They would've been perfectly competent superhero movies in the 1990s. By the standards of their time, they were somewhat simplistic and cheesy. I don't hate them, but they're not particularly good.
The first one suffers mainly because the FF aren't actually heroes. If anything, they act more like villains. The only time they actually try to help other people is when they cause a near-disaster through their own actions, and in the finale, they're only fighting to protect themselves, not anyone else -- and worse, they risk destroying the entire world in order to protect just themselves, the most staggeringly selfish and irresponsible thing I've ever seen movie "heroes" do.
No, the shortcomings are because the movies didn't portray the FF all that well. They're much richer characters in the comics. For instance, the Sue Richards of the modern comics is a remarkably powerful, intelligent, capable figure, succeeding as an explorer and diplomat and superhero while also being the mother of two of the most powerful superbeings on Earth. Not only is she the glue that holds the fractious FF together and keeps their eccentricities in check, but she's the first person you'd turn to if you wanted a negotiator to avert an interstellar war. Conversely, Jessica Alba's Sue Storm was basically defined by her ability to look good in her underwear. Which was certainly playing to Alba's strengths, but didn't do the character justice.
That's what I'm most concerned about with the new movie. They have to get DOCTOR FREAKING DOOM right or the movie's a wash.
Dark Angel (The Tv Show) was fantastic, therefore Jessica is a little more than just the most beautiful woman in the universe.
(The left half of my body falters whenever I remember that she exists.)
Recently (there I go again) someone called Sue "Doctor" Richards, so it seems that at some point since the last time she wasn't called a Doctor, that Sue Richards got a Doctorate. But then again, a retroedit of her life made this super heroine the same age as Reed instead of 10 years younger, which makes the love at first sight they had when she met him as a seven year old a little less creepy. So maybe they were in similar classes at College as well as Reed renting a room in her house off her parents while he was at school.
And according to space polygamy, Sue is an Inhuman Queen.
Turn of the century, Reed and Sue's kid, a teenage time travelling Valeria Von Doom, in an impossibly short miniskirt, has the surname VON DOOM! Which was always a funny little quirk, but look at the current playing field... Sue is married to Victor, and her kids call him daddy.
(The left half of my body falters whenever I remember that she exists.)
Recently (there I go again) someone called Sue "Doctor" Richards, so it seems that at some point since the last time she wasn't called a Doctor, that Sue Richards got a Doctorate. But then again, a retroedit of her life made this super heroine the same age as Reed instead of 10 years younger, which makes the love at first sight they had when she met him as a seven year old a little less creepy. So maybe they were in similar classes at College as well as Reed renting a room in her house off her parents while he was at school.
And according to space polygamy, Sue is an Inhuman Queen.
Turn of the century, Reed and Sue's kid, a teenage time travelling Valeria Von Doom, in an impossibly short miniskirt, has the surname VON DOOM! Which was always a funny little quirk, but look at the current playing field... Sue is married to Victor, and her kids call him daddy.
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this is a superlong trailer with a Deadpool thing at the end.
Despite the length there seems to be nothing new here
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rVY8eo3Res[/yt]
Despite the length there seems to be nothing new here
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rVY8eo3Res[/yt]
It would make him Archie Bunker. It's actually an interesting idea. The FF could be responsible for the Civil Rights Movement, Women's Lib, and the Sexual Revolution (of course, the Civil Rights Movement actually started in the late 50s, but it's a movie).
Doom has his own country, and from what I understand sexual and racial equality is a given, or else.
When the Fantastic Four invaded and took over Latveria, and gave the people the freedom to make their own decisions, is when the shit really hit the fan. Order as it had stood previously vs. Thousands of well armed violent idiots jockeying for control, blowing up schools and shit trying to be the new Doom.
Those comic books came out near the beginning of the American invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, but the Argument was clear, sure Saddam was an asshole, but he made sure that the streets were not paved in blood. Meanwhile there is no excuse for the Taliban, so no one should even try.
The point is that Doom wouldn't want America to become undeservedly superior as a nation because of rapey temporal interference, because he is in competition with America on many levels that are just ordinary brinkmanship countries do to each other to stay profitable and fat.
The power the FF would have is not fair and it's cheating.
Besides, people who tell Doom that he's an idot and that they know better than him, wake up without kidneys.
So, this calling to oppose the architects of a better future, would have nothing to do with Doom being Archie Bunker, and more with him being Stalin, who gets hard over his enemies weaknesses.
When the Fantastic Four invaded and took over Latveria, and gave the people the freedom to make their own decisions, is when the shit really hit the fan. Order as it had stood previously vs. Thousands of well armed violent idiots jockeying for control, blowing up schools and shit trying to be the new Doom.
Those comic books came out near the beginning of the American invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, but the Argument was clear, sure Saddam was an asshole, but he made sure that the streets were not paved in blood. Meanwhile there is no excuse for the Taliban, so no one should even try.
The point is that Doom wouldn't want America to become undeservedly superior as a nation because of rapey temporal interference, because he is in competition with America on many levels that are just ordinary brinkmanship countries do to each other to stay profitable and fat.
The power the FF would have is not fair and it's cheating.
Besides, people who tell Doom that he's an idot and that they know better than him, wake up without kidneys.
So, this calling to oppose the architects of a better future, would have nothing to do with Doom being Archie Bunker, and more with him being Stalin, who gets hard over his enemies weaknesses.