Fans, what don't you like about DS9?

[Warped9]

A minor nitpick I had with DS9 with how they depicted the three familiar TOS Klingons. The makeup was way overdone. They should have gone a more moderate route kind of like what they did with General Chang (Christopher Plummer) in TUC. Makeup somewhere between TOS and full-on Klingon makeup. It would have been a nice tip-of-the hat. Seeing them as they were done convinced me we were seeing two different continuities.

 

[Navaros]

Actually the man said nothing at all after raising his hand.

http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/stargate/season4/stargate-408.htm

If you want to bash SG1 you could at least be accurate about the show.

I was paraphrasing from memory which is often an inaccurate thing; that's why I was sure to note my recollection was not verbatim. In my memory, I had believed the alien-possessed guy had muttered some words under his breath. I stand corrected.

In any case, I'm glad you found the specific script & quotation in question because it proves my point that DS9's dialogue is orders of magnitude better than SG-1's.

 

[Warped9]

^^ This really is a matter of taste because after a time I simply could not stomach most of the dialogue in DS9. It often struck me as so hamfisted and overly written.

 

[happydave]

I find TNG's dialogue incredibly dry and stiff and formulaic. DS9 has a nice casual flavour which while not as completely casual like Babylon 5 (where a lot of dialogue does come off as general banter/conversation [which I do see as a positive since I like it. But can understand how people hate it]) it still works well. Stargate's is basically fairly normal and not bad, but it's not brilliant, though the later seasons do get much better as the show does get more of an entertainment show rather than a deep dry character story show which it was at the start. (Not that it was ever really dry).

Though I guess it's difficult to find a tv show which has well written stories and well written plots. Especially in science fiction since a lot of scifi-tv-writers don't quite do dialogue properly since they spend too much time with the scifi story itself or the issues.

 

[Warped9]

I just finished watching DS9's first season syndicated on SPACE. I'm reminded of why I liked the show early on because it was a distinct departure from what TNG had become. DS9's first season was uneven yet overall more competent and polished than TNG's first season.

Next week SPACE starts season two. I'm curious to see how long I can stay interested after season three starts since that's when I initially drifted away from the show.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

Worst thing about DS9? Q-Less - that episode was bad.

 

[Too Much Fun]

I thought "Q-Less" was all right - one of the few season 1 episodes I thoroughly enjoyed, but then I'm a big fan of Q and Vash. The technobabble in that episode was terrible, though. I watched seasons 2 to 6 on a "Space". It's a great way to watch the show!

 

[Pemmer Harge]

I don't mind Q and Vash, but to my mind they belong on The Next Generation. The first season made me think "is it a rule that every Starfleet commander has to run into the same bunch of interstellar personalities - Q, Vash, Lwaxana Troi, the Duras sisters?" Also, Q was far cooler on TNG, and as for that plot about the magic rock?

 

[Captain Fine]

If there's a character I didn't like in DS9 it was Dax. Either version. She was like TNG's Deanna Troi and annoyed me no end.

I think Jadzia Dax was a failed character, but in an interesting way. As I see it, what happened was the writers had a very strong portrait in mind of who the prior host (Curzon) had been, and little direction for Jadzia herself. So progressively Curzon took over and eventually permeated Jadzia's personality to the point where you end up in the later seasons with a female version of him.

Basically this starts with Blood Oath, where Jadzia decides to fulfill a pact in Curzon's name, but gradually most of the qualities associated with Curzon are absorbed by Jadzia: a certain mischievous quality, impulsiveness, a love of partying, drinking and sex, and of course the affinity for Klingons. Sisko's affectionate "Old Man" (a reference to his friendship with an aging Curzon) is increasingly appropriate as the show progresses.

What's interesting is that this would be exactly the danger if you ever had a symbiotic species of this kind: the prior host would tend to dominate the new, younger and impressionable host, if the prior host's personality had been a particularly powerful one.

I don't think this was intended, but I thought it was interesting.

I've been rewatching season 1 and there was that episode where Dax is accused of murdering some general 30 years ago when she was Curzon, and they make this whole point about how different Jadzia was from Curzon. Jadzia was very restrained initially. Maybe the symbiont taught her to loosen up and enjoy life like Curzon did.