Fan reactions to Starfleet Academy's female Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid character

[Rahul]

Non hominid would be nice. A Horta like Nahrat from the novels or triped like Arex from TAS.

Would prefer an Andorian main character rather than more weird forehead widget aliens, too.

My (sci-fi) headcanon is convergent evolution. Like many species turning into crabs, the humanoid shape is the "peak" evolutionary shape for space-faring species - 2x eyes & ears for 3D perception, 2x limbs for object manipulation, 2x for walking, a digestive tube that can make sounds in them middle - and anything more than that is inefficient & evolved away like tailbones, and anything less doesn't develop an intelligent, technological civilization.


But yeah - I would love to see some more variety - make-up, full face-masks, puppets, animated aliens. I give them some slack for a weekly show. But Farscape was peak

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But also - if the show wants to show it's actors faces - just make them human? TOS was all humans except one - and TNG all but 3 - and that still works!

 

[bdub76]

I found the character rather... bad, but nothing to do with the actress. The concept isn't inconceivable that the genetic engineering could be undone, but extremely unlikely and hard to see why the Founders would ever justify the effort. Even if Odo did to the Dominion what DS9 said Spock did to the Mirror Empire (and just as likely the "drop became the ocean." The idea of Jem'Haddar 'lineage' is foreign to anything in DS9, so would all have been designed in the intervening centuries. Possibly they had the original source race hidden somewhere and it wasn't the Tosk like was commonly speculated.

The idea of Klingon hybrids goes against all that as well from Martok: "We don't embrace other cultures, we conquer them!"

I don't get why there going here at all. They should give a story reason at some point.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well... Given one's a Klingon and one's a Jem'Hadar they almost surely met while trying to either kill each other or someone else...

Probably fought...

And then ended up sleeping together.

Heck of a meet cute there. :lo:
Though my speculation subroutine is pondering the idea of a Jem'Hadar-Klingon alliance.

 

[Rahul]

We have three(!) half-Klingons now on the show - Jayden, teacher-lady, and badguy(tm). Plus a giant Star Trek online Klingon fleet in the trailer battling with the Federation.
This will surely be a part of the overarching season arc.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Jayden,

I thought Jay-den was full Klingon.

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

It's been 800 fucking years. Cultures have changed in real life in less time than that.

And arguably effectively at least three times given that it's apparently biologically impossible for them to live past thirty.

 

[Captain Fine]

I really fail to see why people have a problem with either a female Jem'Hadar or a hybrid Klingon-Jem'Hadar hybrid. As others have pointed out, Weyoun told us that the Founders genetically engineered the Vorta from an existing species. It stands to reason that they did the same thing for the Jem'Hadar (and this has been speculated by many in fandom since DS9 as well). There were both male and female Vorta. Since there were both male and female Vorta, that means that they could reproduce sexually (not just cloning as the Founders intended). While we were unaware of female Jem'Hadar, it doesn't mean the base template species of the Jem'Hadar didn't have them. Lack of seeing something doesn't mean it didn't exist.

How exactly the Jem'Hadar went from exclusively being cloned back to sexual reproduction? Well the Founders or Odo or the Jem'Hadar themselves had 800 years to figure it out. The Dominion as it existed in DS9 was 2000 years old. Surely they could reverse engineer the Jem'Hadar's genetic engineering in half that time.

I also am very confident that there is either overt or subconscious racism toward the character by some (not necessarily all, since we all have different opinions). But the orange one has unmasked a lot of previously hidden racism by certain people, surprisingly even by supposed fans of Star Trek who apparently have watched the show and never really got the message. I do not think we can discount that at least some of the vitriol towards the character is based on racism.

All that said, I love the character. I could have done with a bit less shouting, but other than that I think she's great and I'm really looking forward to seeing more of her and both her Klingon and Jem'Hadar sides. I do think those two races are quite similar in a lot of ways, so it's not hard to mix them into one character.

 

[Tuskin38]

We have three(!) half-Klingons now on the show - Jayden

pretty sure Jay-den is fully Klingon

 

[fireproof78]

really fail to see why people have a problem with either a female Jem'Hadar or a hybrid Klingon-Jem'Hadar hybrid. As others have pointed out, Weyoun told us that the Founders genetically engineered the Vorta from an existing species. It stands to reason that they did the same thing for the Jem'Hadar (and this has been speculated by many in fandom since DS9 as well). There were both male and female Vorta. Since there were both male and female Vorta, that means that they could reproduce sexually (not just cloning as the Founders intended). While we were unaware of female Jem'Hadar, it doesn't mean the base template species of the Jem'Hadar didn't have them. Lack of seeing something doesn't mean it didn't exist.

Exactly. It's bullshit, pure and simple. It's assuming the Jem'Hadar know everything about their origins, when they treat the Founders as gods and we know information is withheld from them.