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Falling Skies - Season 2- discussion/Spoilers

Wouldn't the humans need access to some serious foundry/smelting plants to melt down the alien mechs, that kind of power source should be easy for the aliens to detect from space, and seriously we still have warehouses full of ww2 and older ammuntion, I doubt the resistance would need to make any new bullets.
 
Is it just me or do the Aliens seem really weak, why don't they carry any projectile weapons normally, it just seems a group of ww1 soldiers with their large caliber bolt action rifles would tear the skitters to shreds, hell their grenades could destroy the armor wearing ones.

Perhaps they are lacking resources (they are using a whole lot of scrap metal for whatever they are building at the moment) and slaves are cheap?
 
In season one this was a turning point Nelly.

After they started making bullets from splintered mech armour, they could put a hole through a mech in one shot rather than only dent it after a full clip.
 
Is it just me or do the Aliens seem really weak, why don't they carry any projectile weapons normally, it just seems a group of ww1 soldiers with their large caliber bolt action rifles would tear the skitters to shreds, hell their grenades could destroy the armor wearing ones.

Perhaps they are lacking resources (they are using a whole lot of scrap metal for whatever they are building at the moment) and slaves are cheap?

In season one this was a turning point Nelly.

After they started making bullets from splintered mech armour, they could put a hole through a mech in one shot rather than only dent it after a full clip.

I just don't buy them as a dangerous invasion force, they remind me of aliens that doctor who would fight and consider dangerous since he isn't armed so thereby can't fight back (aka British mentality on tv atleast), I still like the show compared to what else is on tv lately but the battle scenes make me laugh.
 
This isn't the invasion force.

The invasion wrapped up yonks ago.

These are just the rulers of the Earth out for walkies.
 
Yes they entirely are defeated.

Charleston is a trick, trap or a reservation.

You're acting like one lone Gaulish village could hold out against the might of the entire Roman Empire?

Less than 200 cockroaches with pop guns vs atomic weapons flung from space?

I'm not saying that the good guys are going to lose, but they really shouldn't call themselves humanity anymore, since every human government tried to surrender, failed and died, but they should really think about calling themselves something else other than human or men since they are posthuman and menplus.

There's no point in continuing to play a game they have lost.

It's time to reset the pieces and play a new game.
 
The "twist" was a bit predictable.. it's no new trick to have some internal rebellion going on and there be initial mistrust.

Let's see if the show surprises.. the herding theory is a sound one and something i would do if i were an evil overlord. Why expend ressources to hunt down small groups who have dispersed widely when you have utter military supremacy and the few losses the resistance causes can be written off.

Lay back, wait until there are sufficient numbers in one spot and then hit them (also curious why the Skinnies are not using spaceborne assets like recon satellites to follow groups.. their tech is far better).

However the show is still very interesting and i'll be watching it (also partly because there so few decent SF shows out there). It's not a nail biter like season 1 Lost or something like that but it's ok.

The obviousness of the twist is no objection. It's logical and plausible. Too many surprising twists are surprising because they're illogical and if you pick your jaw up off the floor to take a moment to think, implausible.

But the nonuse of tracking equipment, not even stuff we would have like satellites and IR, but not so very high tech stuff like chemical sensors or voice recognition on listening devices dropped from the air by the thousands or whatever?
No, that's not logical, not plausible. The more time the show spends thinking up silly excuses for the people to point guns at each other the continued implausibility will keep eating away at the willing suspension of disbelief.

If you don't confront the mundane technical issues, you're aren't confronting the dramatic issues either. I'm sure that an irritating reality for writers who seem to think that knowing anything about science and engineering is geeky. But it's still true.
 
Yeah, the problem with shows/movies like this is you have to make the aliens dumb to the point of absurdity in order for the humans to have a chance.
 
A really well written show will have twists that are both logical and unpredictable (that is, logical only in hindsight). Which is difficult to do, but not impossible. I've seen it done in TV shows, but this show just isn't up to the same standards as the best. It's good enough to watch, that's all.

And it will also have another season with which to improve: it's officially renewed for S3.
 
^^ Good news. :bolian:

I have a feeling that the show will end with Dr Carter waking up in bed next to Suzanne Pleshette.
 
Renewed! Yay! That means that in a year's time we'll all still be here hashing about the same stuff! (makes me feel secure)
 
I had a thought.

Humanity owns the solar system, not just earth.

These aliens are not allowed to strip mine the solar system, you know the useful planets like Jupiter and Saturn unless there's no life to stake a claim. So they have to remove all the legitimate owners, without it looking like they were responsible, which is why there are skitters with earth made tech fighting the bad fight, before the actual galactic pencil pushing authorities show up with a clip board to make sure everything is up to code and all the paperwork is filled out in triplicate.

If they started draining Saturn before they killed man, they're in trouble.

There's a ticking clock that could save whats left of man before the space cops turn up to take the tall guys to space jail.
 
7/15's episode was really good. The characters are so much more appealing when they are acting with reasonable intelligence(Tom screwing up then apologizing immediately was nice). The writing seemed sharper, giving a lot of specific details about the 2nd Mass' situation that helped make things seem more grounded. The fuel situation, ammo, food, all that stuff needs to always be an ever present worry for our heroes, and it was nicely incorporated here.

The ambiguity with Karen was nice, and something that needs to be used more in the show. For all of the first act, and part of the second(right up until they started giving Karen deliberately ominous shots) I was unsure which side she was on. However the overlords ability to control human subjects, with full access to their memories and personalities, as pawns is something that had better be remembered by the 2nd Mass. They need to get more paranoid real fast or start looking like idiots again. And it further adds to the problem the writers keep running into but not really addressing, which is how aliens who are so powerful and technologically advanced can't seem to keep track of(or wipe out) a couple hundred humans who roam around in diesel trucks. These are the same aliens who wiped out billions of people and every military force on the planet?

But overall I really like that the show seems to be improving in both plotting and characterization. It seems very possible that the second half of this season will be better than anything they have done so far.
 
Last night's episode was a good one.
But the 2'nd Mass trusts too much IMO.
Karen being the only one alive in a mass grave? Placed just where they were patroling to find? She turned on the tears and manipulated just about everyone. She did what she was sent to do though, escape with Ben.
 
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I kept thinking that some one or any one was faking there trust in that blonde thing.

Hal letting Ben sleeper him seems like they discussed a huge plan with just a glance.

But when Hal woke up he just seemed like an idiot.

The writing can't be this one dimensional.

I keep looking for layers that are not there because I watched too much Hogans Heroes as a boy.

Seriously, these fucks need to watch some Leverage.

LAYERS (For Dummies.).
 
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