Falling Skies - Season 2- discussion/Spoilers

[Temis the Vorta]

Much better this week. The style of the show doesn't seem as clumsy, in the production and direction if not writing (Janey's appearance being overly convenient).

I don't see there being much mystery about the skinnies' motives - they are space pirates who wander from one planet to another, using their goa'uld parasites to enslave various species they encounter. The skitters' species was just one of many. Maybe the skinnies will dump the skitters in favor of human slaves once they've assembled a sufficient army and proceed to the next planet.

 

[DarthTom]

^^^^ Why not then harness 100% of the population and not just the children?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Adults may be more difficult to control with the harness. They may see children as more easily controlled and malleable to their will.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

They focus on kids who are old enough to be physically tough, yet still growing. That implies the goa'ulds need to bond with a host while they're still undergoing growth, or at least that works better.

However, I do expect the "flesh wound" that Weaver suffered when the goa'uld bit him, will be a shoe that drops sometime later this season. Everyone's focused on the possible threat posed by Tom or Ben, and the real threat comes out of left field.

 

[RJDiogenes]

It's interesting that they're building all this harnessing equipment out of leftover Human junk. I really am thinking more and more that these are just space hillbillies who have very little resources of their own and that's why they can't keep up with the resistance.

It was nice to see Henry from Sanctuary as part of the 2nd Mass. I hope he sticks around.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Korea and Vietnam did not become nuclear wars because starchamber agreements on limitations of armaments that saw mounting death tolls in the 100,000s of thousands (both sides) while military objectives were achieved, instead of the end of the fucking world if China and America got real.

The Gou'ld had rules about how they would fight so that it would be fun without seeing to any swift and unpredictable extermination from doomsday technology, which is what started happeneing when Anibus returned ot the mortal plane.

 

[stj]

The implicit idea that the skinnies aren't the creators of their starships, and that they don't have the tech such advanced beings would, might possibly work. It's also not on screen, not a bit of it.

What is on screen is advanced robotic tech, the Mechs, that asks the question, what would they want slaves for? Robots are not going to blow up your giant sun deck or taser you. People would have annoying dietary requirements, vet bills, questionable skills and uncertain breeding habits.

 

[arch101]

I liked the ep. If all human survivors are being herded towards Charleston, as I suspect, then I don't think it's implausible that other familiar faces will show up as the refugees move South. I continue to be astonished at how many Skitters the Overlords are willing to throw away to allow the refugees to continue their journey. I hope they brought a lot of them. They need to bring back the radio wave thing. It was a pretty valuable weapon against the Mechs and it's absence is noticeable.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Did you see those harnesses before the hardware expressed itself?

that was giant skitter jizz.

Obviously?

Maybe the harness doesn't convert humans into skitters.

Maybe the harness is a skitter pupa and the humans are just a temporary life support system, and eventfully a souce of food before their final metamorphisms into Skitters?

the children are surrogates.

The tall aliens don't care about earth.

Just every now and then they need to supply a breeding ground for their skitters or the skitter get pissy about dying out.

It's like how generals used to have let their soldiers rape a village in the old days (the really old says. Although some of the shit going down in Africa right now?) to keep the homicidal maniacs working under them cordial and obeying orders.

 

[Sindatur]

I wasn't expecting the harnesses to be so biological as to be "Go'A'Ulds". They looked far mechanical (Bio-mechanical) preciouly. So...Somehow, the "Go'A'Ulds" end up inside the host, after being on their back, and apparently are converted into a new Life form, on the outside (The Skitters not necessarily being the blue print for Human change)

They're really putting Weaver through the ringer. Lost Jimmy, after barely getting over the pill addiction, and now found and lost his daughter in the same episode (Though, it's gotta be some relief knowing she's alive)

I've gotta rewatch the end of last week's episode, I swear I thought the blonde girl was saying her goodbyes on her way outta camp? I'm glad she's still around, I really like her.

 

[nvek86]

They need to bring back the radio wave thing. It was a pretty valuable weapon against the Mechs and it's absence is noticeable.

I think they mentioned in one of the episodes that it doesn't work anymore (if it ever did; I can't remember if the aliens only pretended it worked for some time or if it really did).

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Space hillbillies, yeah. I'm thinking pirates, maybe a biker gang, but it amounts to the same thing. The skinnies roam the cosmos, "living off the land," with no other justification for their behavior than, that's how they are. I suppose there could be some excuse, such as their planet went kaboom, but I'd prefer if the writers give them no good excuse at all. Maybe they just got bored.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

1.2 in the demo.

Okay, it's leveling off. Order S3 now, TNT!

 

[Relayer1]

Just seen Ep.1 of season two on UK TV.

It seems to have raised its game a little, but continues to underwhelm...

 

[MacLeod]

But the competition that FXUK where running to coincide with the premiere has left them a little red faced, as it appears their servers couldn't handle the amount of people wanting to enter and as such was down for most of the 90 min entry window. I suspect they'll have to reopen it tomorrow.

 

[SG-17]

Wow that was a certainly interesting revelation. I hope that Red-Eye doesn't die, it would be cool to have a Teal'c around.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I was thinking more Willie from the original V.

 

[stj]

Family interruptions during the episode. Maybe that was why it seemed so drearily melodramatic when Weaver runs in to kill the skitter without bothering to ask Mason what his interrogation revealed. Since Mason's interrogation revealed that instant death was not a good idea (death after checking things out still being a possibility,) the whole conflict was ginned up at the expense of making Weaver stupid, then weak for just accepting Mason's apology.

Pointing guns at each other like they still haven't learned to value human life! How could they possibly survive all that and not think they are all each other has? If they haven't figured that out, they're just shitheads like Pope.

The aliens are slavers? Why do they want slaves? I'd rather have an air conditioner than a slave waving a fan. And if they did want slaves, why wouldn't they want billions of them? If they really wanted slaves, why would they practically exterminate humanity? Not only is this a crappy motive, it's a self-contradictory motive.

They just want to be assholes? Don't have to travel lightyears to be an asshole. There are easier ways to be a dick, like posting on the internet.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I'm glad to see they got the World's Most Obvious Plot twist out of the way. The skinnies are the only real baddies here, and presumably they had some other slave army that conquered the skitter homeworld.

What happened to those guys? Did their termination implants (in the harnesses, presumably) get activated? Maybe once the human slave army is ready to proceed to the next world on the hit list, the skitters will be "retired" from service. This would give them even more motivation to rebel.

If they're clever, Red-Eye is just stringing us along. They're not slaves, it's all a big con. However, why they'd bother with a con vs. simple extermination is hard to figure out, and this show isn't that subtle.

Ben gazing up at the stars at the end made me hopeful this show will take place partly in space in the future. I'd like to see the skitter homeworld someday.

 

[RJDiogenes]

I still think the Skinnies are weak and there's only about a dozen of them. That's why they need slaves and why they need to lay waste to a planet before they go near it. But what they're really up to is still a mystery-- why are they building those huge structures out of junk? Maybe they're just really bad interstellar post-modern sculptors.