Falling Skies - Season 2- discussion/Spoilers

[Temis the Vorta]

Maybe the fish heads are interstellar Eco nazis. They roam around culling the populations of various worlds, just focusing on intelligent species that are able to wreak havoc and knocking them back to the stone age or dark ages so they can't cause so much damage.

 

[Guy Gardener]

No maybe about it. That's just repeating what they said with a couple different words.

(Rural) Australians are encouraged to shoot kangaroos because the uncontrollable population expansion marks them as vermin.

 

[gturner]

Maybe they'll take a que from nuBSG and have her commit suicide.

They might. Bradley Thompson and David Weddle started on Falling Skies season 2. They left BSG after the second or third season, as I recall, to work on CSI.

 

[FreezeC77]

I wonder why Ben seems to be the only unharnessed kid with free will.

This was a pretty good episode. The scene at the end between Tom and Ben, with the role reversal of Ben leaving, was very well done. Probably the best scene since the series began. There were some nice, exciting action scenes with the bugs and the mech in the basement. And some strange new insights from the fish head about the reason for the invasion.

I wonder where they are going to go with Lourdes-- she's really gone off the cliff into hopelessness.

I don't understand how Ben plans to find other resistance groups when the 2nd Mass doesn't seem to know where any of them (other then getting told about Charleston). Plus he's on foot which also seems stupid as well.

I was hoping he would have at least revealed what the overlords agenda was after being in his head. Guess that's a season ender type thing.

Lourdes sounds like she's about to throw off the religion stuff. Realizing this whole world is just about suffering until you die (sounds very Walking Deadish)... Maybe she'll realize she's wasting time being devout and start sleeping with Pope

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ I figure she'll either go to the dark side or become even more religious, to a fanatical level.

Maybe the fish heads are interstellar Eco nazis. They roam around culling the populations of various worlds, just focusing on intelligent species that are able to wreak havoc and knocking them back to the stone age or dark ages so they can't cause so much damage.

I keep thinking about Clarke's line from 2001: "Sometimes, dispassionately, they had to weed." But it seems like an alien race so allegedly advanced would have better methods than neutron bombs and shock troops. And it still doesn't explain what they're building and why they're building it from scrap.

 

[Sindatur]

Tom, telling the Fish Head "OK, I understand", reminded me alot of Rick's epiphany in the Bar Scene in The Walking Dead, when he had to shoot those two guys dead.

I thought the spiders were great, and I have no problem that they cribbed them SG-1 Replicators, they put a different spin on them, that was nice. Poor Jamal, I was really liking him.

I guess Tom and Weaver gotta trust Red Eye now, I wonder when they'll meet up agan?

The Fish Heads, said they're here (And presumably everywhere else they go), basically to impose order. I wonder if this because when they see a world advance far enough to become a Technological threat soon, if maybe they don't knock over the ant hill, to prevent that world from getting that far? Certainly you don't kill off 90% of a world's population, because they were killing each, at a drastically slower rate.

Ben's probably going to hook up with Red-Eye, and that's how he'll find other Resistance cells that have de-harnessed kids.

 

[DarthTom]

Maybe the fish heads are interstellar Eco nazis. They roam around culling the populations of various worlds, just focusing on intelligent species that are able to wreak havoc and knocking them back to the stone age or dark ages so they can't cause so much damage.

The mirror universe or anti-prime directive per se.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I wonder why Ben seems to be the only unharnessed kid with free will.

I get the impression that this is because it was successfully removed early enough that it hadn't entirely co-opted his sense of self like it did with the others. He still makes his own decisions (at least, for as long as the writers find it beneficial to the plot), but has taken on the more superhuman abilities that contact with the harness once provided. Best of both worlds. At least, for now...

 

[RJDiogenes]

What about that other kid-- Rick? Was he harnessed longer? I don't remember.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I believe so, yes. There must be some point-of-no-return whether or not being attached to the harness no longer matters.

 

[gturner]

Or perhaps the rebel skitters have a way of hacking with or hampering the effects of the harness, and did so for Ben but didn't get a chance with some of the other kids like Rick. If that's the case it will probably be made clearer in a future episode.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I thought it was more about how the Skitters found the flavour of the unharnessed kids distasteful.

 

[arch101]

Well, this is getting good. Who doesn't like post-apocalyptic underground societies? I can't wait to see if this is some kind of sham or something. Glad there's 2 more shows but dismayed I'll have to wait until next summer to see more.

 

[SG-17]

I didn't see the point of the half-way gone harnessed girl. Maybe they just wanted to pad out the episode so that the next one could be full on Charleston.

 

[ThunderAeroI]

Any country run by Lock is doomed to failure.

 

[Caliburn24]

Yeah, this episode seemed like a padded out filler episode compared to the full on action of the previous one. The Tector/Weaver stuff was filler, the Hal/Margaret stuff was stupid drama for drama's sake, the Matt/girl stuff was fine if we see a pay-off later, filler if not.

I'm trying to decide if all the cast survives the season. A couple of the secondary characters could easily buy it, and if even one lead died it would certainly add a sense of danger that has kind of went missing so far this season.

 

[stj]

^^^I don't think there was anything at all wrong with the character beats, except for the Pope one. Of course the girl's revelations were anticlimactic. All the Popery is dumbass and everything connected with him is dumbass. But character moments are what serial drama is about, and the rest were fine.

What really sucked is the stupid idea that a functioning government wouldn't have patrols, a lot more than just the brief cutaway we saw with Hal. I kept wondering if they were just being stupid or if Charleston was supposed to have been nuked since they heard about it. The spectacle of destruction had zero impact. The problem is that it should have been expected by every character we saw on that bridge. What was supposed to be a shocking moment was blatantly phony.

I think it was modeled on the BSG idiots seeing the blasted planet from space then being surprised when they got out of the spaceship. Falling Skies has never been distinguished enough in the wriitng to borrow third rate crap like that. Of course, since the bridge was a bust, the sudden appearance of some extras was equally anticlimactic. It was supposed to be a roller coaster ride, zoooming low then riding high (which is the oppositie of what really happens, some writers have no feeling for reality at all!)

By far the worst episode in the show's whole run.

 

[ThunderAeroI]

What I find really odd is that in that area there is no trees, how they possibly needed to drive to the top of the bridge to realize the city was gone was stupid.

 

[SG-17]

They were driving single file and Tector saw the city and stopped before the bridge.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'm waiting for Waever to realize... "Oh, it was supposed to be a secret?"

They told a harnessed kid out right, and Ben probably had it sucked out of his mind by the fishface...

Seriously, that pilot lady needs to give better instructions when she''s telling people about her secret city.

but don't tell th skitters pretty much seems like going without saying?