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Falling Skies 1.3 "Grace" Discussion/comment **SPOILERS**

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Well that's a nice change of pace, watching a SciFi show that is actually doing well.

Wow, over 6 million with +7 viewing added in, that's like Flagship Series numbers for Cable.

My one issue:

TNT picked up another 10 episodes which will debut next summer.

I know this is how they're doing things for cable (small orders, etc.); but after the 10 episodes of this season air - will there be interest after waiting a year for another 10?
 
Works fine for the English.

5 or 6 episodes a year, and the years just tick on over.

I need more IT Crowd.

STAT.
 
Well that's a nice change of pace, watching a SciFi show that is actually doing well.

Wow, over 6 million with +7 viewing added in, that's like Flagship Series numbers for Cable.

My one issue:

TNT picked up another 10 episodes which will debut next summer.
I know this is how they're doing things for cable (small orders, etc.); but after the 10 episodes of this season air - will there be interest after waiting a year for another 10?

Walking Dead only got 6 episodes. Do you know anyone who enjoyed it that has lost interest because of the wait? Dr. Who only gets 13 (plus a special), which is generally the max for any British Series.

Alot of folks say "I'll forget where it left off". But, what's the difference between remembering 10 episodes versus remembering 20? Not much difference between 32 and 42 weeks.

Plus, 10 tight episodes is going to go over better than the same story stretched to be told in 20 episodes.
 
If true, that's pretty messed up to waste so much money like that, that could've been used for better things.

Regardless wether it's true or not, the guy is definitely disgruntled. I was born in 1964, so, I too, am from the 80s culture, and that's a load of garbage, that the F-Bombs are simply their way of speaking from the 80s Punk era. There is definitely major vitriol in the wrting of that post
 
Walking Dead only got 6 episodes. Do you know anyone who enjoyed it that has lost interest because of the wait? Dr. Who only gets 13 (plus a special), which is generally the max for any British Series.

Alot of folks say "I'll forget where it left off". But, what's the difference between remembering 10 episodes versus remembering 20? Not much difference between 32 and 42 weeks.

Plus, 10 tight episodes is going to go over better than the same story stretched to be told in 20 episodes.

And that is why some companies wait to release DVD series until weeks before the new season premiers. To get you back up to speed.
 
TNT picked up another 10 episodes which will debut next summer.
I know this is how they're doing things for cable (small orders, etc.); but after the 10 episodes of this season air - will there be interest after waiting a year for another 10?
It's normal for cable series to have just 13 eps or so. I haven't had an issue waiting a year between seasons of Dexter or Breaking Bad.

Apparently an extra is dropping a bit of dirt on IMDB. If any of this is true, it could explain so much about this show.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1462059/board/thread/185110514?d=185110514&p=1#185110514

I don't know enough about TV shooting to judge whether the Cupcake Incident is all that much out of line. But they're moving to Vancouver? Oh come on, that looks even less like Boston than where they are now. :rommie:

The rant explains why Lourdes seems like a character adrift - but she's also a character with potential. Just find a good role for her, even if it's as an alien spy. :D

Tom's quest to save his son is relatable and not being presented as off-puttingly "selfish." He acquiesced when the initial foray brought back someone else's son instead. He didn't throw a tantrum over being "cheated" or act bitter at someone else's good fortune. He accepted Weaver's orders to get the motorcycles and the drugs before trying to rescue Ben again.

Wylie plays the character as being on edge but repressing his anxiety, to deliver the message he's hanging in there and being reasonable, a good soldier, as much as anyone could be expected to in those circumstances.

And adding Pope was a good call. It's true that every story needs its Wolverine - the charismatic wild-card role. What's wrong with writers being smart about including the crowd pleasing elements that have been proven to work before? That's how shows get ratings. The fact that Falling Skies has beaten the odds against sci fi on TV, particularly if the sci fi isn't couched in palatable cop-show elements, is proof enough that the approach being taken in the right one.

The notion that being a "history professor" means Tom won't be upset about his son being a casualty of war is utterly absurd. That's a great way to make Tom an unsympathetic character - a heartless bastard who doesn't love his kid! Good lord.

And if the original concept was some cliched "Tom fights the evil military jerks who want to kick the civilians around," then thank goodness they changed that. I much prefer the more nuanced and realistic approach - the military and civilians are all trying to work out everyone's roles and priorities on the fly and there are no easy answers. Everyone is well-meaning and basically wants the same thing. Except Wolverine.
 
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If everybody is well-meaning and basically wants the same thing, then where is the dramatic "conflict?" If the show is just going to be kick alien ass, it's already pushing the envelope. It's nowhere nearly as funny as SG-1 and the characters are mostly too ordinary (AKA drab) to be amusing. The only vicarious fantasy figure is Pope, who brings to mind a golden oldie: NO POPERY!

The character could do lots of analyzing and arguing about alien mysteries and correct strategies, but that means the writers had better figure out reasonable answers to the alien mysteries and sensible strategies and actually bother to write exposition. True, it's hard, and most TV scifi writers are too lazy/incompetent to even try, cynically calling it technobabble. Falling Skies has a huge obstacle, namely, this kind of space invasion makes no fucking sense. That is the likely cause of the show's artistic downfall. If they start ginning up trite conflicts on personalites, you'll know they've given up making a genuinely good series and writing character driven drama instead.

As to the supposed extra, when one of the young characters worries about his or her military "career," I'll agree these characters are oblivious to their situation.
 
This show is ok, i will stick around for the season. Not much Scifi left on tv and Moon Bloodgood helps
 
I am liking the show more than I thought I would, as simple and cornball as it is. I'll give it a chance. Wonder where they will go with the whole prayer thing?
 
The prayer is a bandaid that will hold them together invisibly.

Curious to think about is how they would have destructively spun out of control without that moment of grace. Did it save them? How well did it save them? Road not taken. Canabalism? Judas goat?

From the way Pope talked about the poorly cooked chicken being Skitter, he protested a little to vehemently. Methinks he's tried eating Skitter and the result after the fact was a little worse than heartburn. Did skittermeat drive him crazy or afford him with a little radiotelepathy... Note how Pope said that he could "smell" Skitters when he impossibly tracked that sleeping nest hanging under that Bridge.
 
IMDB Guy said:
When people talk to me like that, I generally tell them to F-off, and write them off as know-it-all, hippie wanna-be's. Whatever happened to "that sucks, dude - Wanna beer?"
After complaining about Falling Skies being "dumbed down." :rommie:
 
If everybody is well-meaning and basically wants the same thing, then where is the dramatic "conflict?"
For now, us-vs-aliens is enough. But it won't be enough for very long, which is why I suspect the aliens that we're seeing in the show are also victims - a slave army - which complicates things enormously, because then it's us-vs-???

Which is dangerous because it might cause the show to become frustrating and lose focus. But until I see that they can't pull it off, I'll go on the assumption they can. If that's even the game plan.

The character could do lots of analyzing and arguing about alien mysteries and correct strategies, but that means the writers had better figure out reasonable answers to the alien mysteries and sensible strategies and actually bother to write exposition.
That would just lead to a whole lot of channel-changing. This is TNT, not PBS. Also, the dialogue has not been a strong point so far. It's already overly expository, boring and clumsy. Better to keep it minimal.

Falling Skies has a huge obstacle, namely, this kind of space invasion makes no fucking sense.
For the TNT audience, that's no obstacle at all. They aren't watching the show for tips on how to fend off an alien invasion for real. They're watching because it's entertaining fodder that they can watch with granny and the kids.

The most important aspect is the aliens, which you can't see on any other TV show right now. That's the show's "unique selling proposition" that differentiates it from all competitors. Terra Nova will also use that strategy in the fall - the one and only place to see dinosaurs in a scripted TV series.
 
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