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Falling Skies 1.3 "Grace" Discussion/comment **SPOILERS**

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Sindatur said:
Didn't Lourdes make it clear she was thanking God for "giving her/them the strength" to carry on, rather than thanking God for the results of that strength
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Lourdes needs religion. there's no doubt that she was talking to god. Whether she thought that God was pumping her adrenal gland extra hard or diverting skitters from where she was sleeping, if god wasn't "helping her" or paying her karma bills, in her mind, she would be dead.

That's her.

(But then according to Job, everyone murdered or harnessed should also be grateful to god for their lot too, or God gets pissy and rolls his sleeves up.)

I doubt whether anyone else followed her suggestion because of God, rather than it felt like a good thing to do, but in the case of Noah's character he already made it plain earlier in the episode that without "Hope" that their little colony was doomed and perhaps this was a perfect little stopgap to make every one feel less hesitant about tomorrow to feel good about today.

Try to convince even a liberal Christian today about the ultimate importance of Santa Cluas to Christmas or the Easter Bunny to Easter and you'll see that the godless masses have stolen these holidays off the Christians just like they stole these holidays off the pagans.
 
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The Catholic girl helped them keep their spirits up and not just dwell on what they'd lost. That's an important thing in such a situation so that they don't give in to despair and just give up. it's up to them to see that humanity survives, just like Battlestar Gallactica. And not surviving as just mentally controlled bodies.
 
I think it's worth watching. I like the alien mysteries and Noah Wylie. The downside is the sappy/sentimental dialogue and music.

The Catholic girl helped them keep their spirits up and not just dwell on what they'd lost. That's an important thing in such a situation so that they don't give in to despair and just give up. it's up to them to see that humanity survives, just like Battlestar Gallactica.
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They didn't sell the notion that these people were about to give up, though. The main character continues to be optimistic - that's his calling card.

So the "grace" scene was not a dramatic payoff for anything. Without the proper setup, it's a useless scene. (Unless it's not a payoff but a setup for something else - Lourdes is a spy and she's lulling them into a false sense of security.) Any scene that doesn't have a purpose as setup or payoff for something, whether long term or short term, should have hit the cutting room floor long before we ever got to see it.

EDIT: Here's how the DVRing stacks up - it gives the show a serious boost. No ratings for this week yet, but the holiday will render them largely irrelevant. If there's a big DVR bump, that means it has fans loyal enough to record the show while they're out of town.
 
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The opposite of being emotionally graceful is to be whiny and bitchy.

Lourdes helped them all, but it's not really conceivable that anyone found god who wasn't already looking for him.

Gods representative on earth is the Pope.

Was that a ridiculous metaphor?

Having Pope bash dai in the back of the head and run off?

God has abandoned mankind.

Did Pope kill those Skitters to effect his escape or because he had to kill them?
 
Guy Gardener said:
The opposite of being emotionally graceful is to be whiny and bitchy.

Lourdes helped them all, but it's not really conceivable that anyone found god who wasn't already looking for him.

Gods representative on earth is the Pope.

Was that a ridiculous metaphor?

Having Pope bash dai in the back of the head and run off?

God has abandoned mankind.

Did Pope kill those Skitters to effect his escape or because he had to kill them?
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Its not about finding God its about finding a new family. especially where everybody is doing stupid things to try to retrieve family back from the dead. 300 people with 99.9% of humanity gone and two of them have kids that happened to take the same route out of Boston as their regiment. What are the odds?

Pope killed the Skitters because he had to. He is a Skitter killer, its more fun then raping women and doing other crimes for him
 
So, not only could radio be used to jam/daze the skitters, but a strong enough signal could be used as a personal weapon and an electromagnetic pulse from a nuke would kill them by the mass. I imagine, after seeing one so casually used in Oceans 11 that electromacgnetic pulse weapons might have been invented by this point?

If radio is dangerous to them, imagine what happened to their world when it began being bombarded with signals from Earth? Beginning with irritation, followed by madness and then death, gods forbid birth defects from reruns of Bonanza and Gunsmoke.

Earth had to be destroyed for starting this war by killing their children and fuck it, they would replace their lost kids with ours.
 
Guy Gardener said:
If radio is dangerous to them, imagine what happened to their world when it began being bombarded with signals from Earth? Beginning with irritation, followed by madness and then death, gods forbid birth defects from reruns of Bonanza and Gunsmoke.
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That's...not at all believable as a "realistic" sci-fi motivation. But it would make a great episode of Futurama.
 
They have one or more glands that can express electromagnetic signals.

Weakly.

However in a zero gravity environment this would mean that they can perhaps control forces of repulsion and attraction to effect controlled flight as well as staying as firmly moored to any magnetic surface as they chose to.

If they have adapted to space, gravity must really piss them off.

This would explain the Mechs.

Skitters who can't handle/survive the consistency of one G baring down on them. It's not a weapons platform, it's a life support rig.

Numbers of generations removed in space vs. freshly conscripted from the home world.
 
Whoops, I shouldn't have said ratings. I meant the poll results. God, I hope it's doing much better than SGU in the ratings. In fact, I hope that for every show :lol:

Anyway, I'll probably give it a try in the next week or so.
 
Have you ever seen the 1960s John Wayne movie "The Searchers"?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049730/

There's this guy, and his daughters were "kidnapped" by Indians months earlier, and the thinking they had was not they they should mount up and rescue his girls from the nasty "Red Skinned Savages" but that his teen age daughters had probably been raped so much that their sanity had snapped and they would have thought that they were now squaw only good for making children so they, he and John Wayne, should go kill these little women for their own good.

Better dead than red?

Kill his daughters rather than let them live as Sqaw, or try to rehabilitate them with the constant reminder of being savaged by savages and...

I may be exaggerating a little, but I was really offend by the plot of this movie.

Rescuing or abandoning the girls is one thing but spending close to a year of your life to make sure your daughters (and their children) are murdered because you don't like her boyfriend is just pure assholery.

"Sigh"

Ditto Mike ripping the harness off his kid.

(I just looked up the movie on IMDB. I was mostly right, but it seems to be that there was also a control character who noticed the racism and did not like it. So there was an internal struggle as to what to do with the "niece" when she was found. Oh look! Costarring Jeffery Hunter!)
 
Looks like it'll be sticking around for a while.

Those who love to hate Falling Skies and who were rooting for big drops will be disappointed. Falling Skies fell a mere tenth with adults 18-49 down to a 1.4 rating versus last week’s 1.5. Its total viewers didn’t fall very far either dropping down to 4.07 million from last week’s 4.2 million.
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Numbers look like they're bottoming out at around 4m, although Sunday night was repeat-heavy so maybe that contributed. Be interested to see if the Live+SD gets a huge bump again this week.
 
Gep Malakai said:
Guy Gardener said:
If radio is dangerous to them, imagine what happened to their world when it began being bombarded with signals from Earth? Beginning with irritation, followed by madness and then death, gods forbid birth defects from reruns of Bonanza and Gunsmoke.
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That's...not at all believable as a "realistic" sci-fi motivation. But it would make a great episode of Futurama.
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Given that Futurama is kinda ...meh... nowdays, they really need Guy writing for them or at least providing ideas. ;)

Angel4576 said:
Looks like it'll be sticking around for a while.

Those who love to hate Falling Skies and who were rooting for big drops will be disappointed. Falling Skies fell a mere tenth with adults 18-49 down to a 1.4 rating versus last week’s 1.5. Its total viewers didn’t fall very far either dropping down to 4.07 million from last week’s 4.2 million.
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Numbers look like they're bottoming out at around 4m, although Sunday night was repeat-heavy so maybe that contributed. Be interested to see if the Live+SD gets a huge bump again this week.
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Holy crap, that's great considering it was the day before the 4th of July and fewer people than normal can be expected to be at home to watch it live. That's a healthy sign that it's locked in a loyal audience that is more than good enough for survival. I guess the Speilberg schmaltz strategy is working out for them.

I still wanna see the DVR numbers, but I expect an even bigger bump there than usual (across the board for all shows).
 
Very heartening to see that "real" sci fi (the kind with actual aliens, where the main character is not in law enforcement - ie, not a cop show in genre disguise) can survive on cable.

Hey Skiffy, pay attention! :rommie: Where's our space opera series?

I should just give up on Skiffy. FX is a good place for a space opera series. AMC might want to branch out to a totally different kind of sci fi than zombies represent. And Showtime needs to get a strong sf/f genre show lined up.
 
Good news. This is more likely to get us Space Opera than Walking Dead is. Of course, both Walking Dead and Falling Skies are post-apocalypses, so the most likely scenario is that we'll be inundated by post apocalypses. :rommie:
 
RJDiogenes said:
Good news. This is more likely to get us Space Opera than Walking Dead is. Of course, both Walking Dead and Falling Skies are post-apocalypses, so the most likely scenario is that we'll be inundated by post apocalypses. :rommie:
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HBO's Trent Reznor show will fit right in. :D
 
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