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[tharpdevenport]

What's lame about Sisko?

I didn't say that. You ignored everything else that was a part of that whole point.

 

[Dukhat]

Crazy idea incoming, but hear me out. Maybe -- just maybe -- the people making the show want it to appeal to new and existing Star Trek fans.

The episode only exists because Tawny Newsome wanted a callback to Sisko. There is no master plan to cater to DS9 fans.

With that said, I’m glad Cirroc Lofton came back.

 

[Steve Roby]

And 900 years later out of all the important people who must have come and gone, who is it? Why, Sisko of course. Lame.

I didn't say that. You ignored everything else that was a part of that whole point.

Oh, okay, it was the choice of bringing Sisko back that was lame, not Sisko himself. The snide "of course" may have helped throw me off.

The episode only exists because Tawny Newsome wanted a callback to Sisko. There is no master plan to cater to DS9 fans.

Picard had a three season callback. Prodigy was built on Voyager callbacks. A Voyager cast member is a regular on Starfleet Academy. SNW is a TOS callback. What's wrong with having a Sisko callback?

 

[Dukhat]

Picard had a three season callback. Prodigy was built on Voyager callbacks. A Voyager cast member is a regular on Starfleet Academy. SNW is a TOS callback. What's wrong with having a Sisko callback?

I already explained that.

 

[Steve Roby]

I already explained that.

You mean this post?

Which was why a SFA episode all about Sisko was dumb. Putting aside for the moment the illogic of caring about some dude who died 900 years before,

Jesus has been dead for 2000 years and some people still care. The episode itself established that Bajorans and others still remembered Sisko, and some venerated him.

the episode was meant for DS9 fans.

So, like I said: TPTB aren't trying only to get the attention of new fans, just like Prodigy, which was aimed at a younger new audience, had elements from past Trek to get us older fans interested, too.

The problem with this is that SFA is supposed to be a show catering to 20-somethings who probably have never watched DS9 and most likely couldn’t be bothered to have seven years and 140 episodes under their belt before watching SFA. Callbacks to shows they’ve never seen is not the way to entice younger viewers.

So, like I said, the show isn't catering only to young new fans. Anyway, for them, it was a story about Sam, just as Prodigy fans had their regular characters to focus on if they weren't already familiar with Janeway. I don't see that as a problem.

 

[Dukhat]

You mean this post?



Jesus has been dead for 2000 years and some people still care. The episode itself established that Bajorans and others still remembered Sisko, and some venerated him.



So, like I said: TPTB aren't trying only to get the attention of new fans, just like Prodigy, which was aimed at a younger new audience, had elements from past Trek to get us older fans interested, too.



So, like I said, the show isn't catering only to young new fans. Anyway, for them, it was a story about Sam, just as Prodigy fans had their regular characters to focus on if they weren't already familiar with Janeway. I don't see that as a problem.

So why did Sam, who is a hologram and not a Bajoran, care about Sisko? Was Tawny Dax egging her on?

 

[Turtletrekker]

So why did Sam, who is a hologram and not a Bajoran, care about Sisko?

Because Sisko was an emissary just like her.

 

[Steve Roby]

So why did Sam, who is a hologram and not a Bajoran, care about Sisko? Was Tawny Dax egging her on?

Because Sisko was an emissary just like her.

This. Sam is an emissary from her people trying to figure out what that means. She comes across a historical figure who was known as an emissary. She's interested. This isn't subtext, she keeps talking about emissaries in the episode.

 

[Dukhat]

Wow, that’s a reach, but whatever. Guess there were no other ‘emissaries’ for the last 800 years.

 

[Firebird]

Wow, that’s a reach, but whatever.

Not really. As others have said, the episode did the work to make the involvement of Sisko make sense with SAM.

 

[Dukhat]

Not really. As others have said, the episode did the work to make the involvement of Sisko make sense with SAM.

My point wasn’t so much about Sisko, but rather that there were no other emissaries for 8 centuries that she could have found.

 

[Steve Roby]

You didn't watch the episode, did you?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Guess there were no other ‘emissaries’ for the last 800 years.

None that were represented in the very specific class that her Makers told her to attend.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Spoiler: Spoiler about Starfleet Academy---'Series Acclimation Mill'

SAM, herself an emissary who was concerned about how to perform her function in the face of unexplainable organic behavior, was first drawn to study Sisko because he was described as an emissary in the curriculum on display, for the course on the unexplainable that she had been ordered to enroll in.

As she delved deeper, she began to understand what they had in common, that he and she were both created by higher powers who live in isolation, both born into their positions as emissaries to the outside universe without their choice, required to structure their lives accordingly.

Connecting in the theremin as another subject for comparison was the chef's kiss.

It's a beautiful episode.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I haven't been getting any complaints, but we should be cautious about spoiling recent SFA episodes in an unrelated thread in an outside forum. The spoiler threshold for new productions in outside forums is six months.

 

[fireproof78]

None that were represented in the very specific class that her Makers told her to attend.

Strange.

I have it on good authority that no one cares anything about things that occured in the past.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I haven't been getting any complaints, but we should be cautious about spoiling recent SFA episodes in an unrelated thread in an outside forum. The spoiler threshold for new productions in outside forums is six months.

Sorry about that, chief.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Someone created an IMDb page for the show. Probably means nothing.

Edit: Link below

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt38781408/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_star trek united

 

[TRON JA307020]

Someone created an IMDb page for the show. Probably means nothing.

Hmm. Interesting. Back in the olden days you could see who created each imdb page. Perhaps we can do a little sleuting. I don't have my account anymore though. Imdb was more fun when people could discuss movies and shows.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Could it be someone trying to generate interest for the idea, or a fan's AI version of such a project?