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Excessive Criticism of "STAR TREK VOYAGER"

by facts I mean what they stated. I posted them earlier. If you want to ignore that, that's fine. I can accept that they made repairs off screen. Some people can't.

Well, and I am trying to make you understand what it means when people say that Voyager hits the reset button at the end of each episode. They seem to have an endless supplies of workforce, material and energy. They should spend half of their time around asteroids mining all sorts of ores, the other half being spend dodging the torpedoes of the angry aliens of the week.
 
ugh, still can't edit....in this example, at the end there is no mention of them "warping away at maximum speed" this is an assumption on your part. We don't know what speed they were traveling at the end of this episode.

at the end of Basics they left at warp 8. It has been stated several times that their top cruising speed is warp 9.975, so again they were not "warping away at maximum speed"

I was being sarcastic.
 
Well, and I am trying to make you understand what it means when people say that Voyager hits the reset button at the end of each episode. They seem to have an endless supplies of workforce, material and energy. They should spend half of their time around asteroids mining all sorts of ores, the other half being spend dodging the torpedoes of the angry aliens of the week.
And I'm just showing why I don't consider it a reset. The only true reset in my opinon was Year of Hell
 
The way I see it. From season one to seven Harry has remained Voyager's whipping boy. He's the one who gets punched, dismissed, browbeaten and humiliated. Plus he's a perpetual malcontent. Even when he finds himself back with his girlfriend with a flourishing career and all the trimmings there is still something about his life that he doesn't like. To me that guy is a pathological anhedonic. I don't see him as different in the last episode.

I think some of it is actually a form of survivors guilt, he has this free and easy lifestyle just given to him while he knows that the rest of his crew are still out there in the DQ fighting to get home, there may also be a self important issue too as in if he is not there running ops then at a crucial time that fight might come to a end. Finally there could also be a guilt that if he stayed that he would never know what happened to his friends and crew.
 
You don't consider it a reset because you don't want to see what's obvious to pretty much every one else.
You could say the same about you as I posted direct quotes from the episode which you seem to be ignoring.

Whether or not it's a reset it doesn't take away my love of the show, and that is the bottom line for me. I can accept that repairs were made off screen even if there is no talk of it. If the ship is in perfect condition in the next episode that is fine with me. I still love the show. I understand a lot of people don't and that's fine too. It's all opinion. I still love it and love to discuss it.
 
I think some of it is actually a form of survivors guilt, he has this free and easy lifestyle just given to him while he knows that the rest of his crew are still out there in the DQ fighting to get home, there may also be a self important issue too as in if he is not there running ops then at a crucial time that fight might come to a end. Finally there could also be a guilt that if he stayed that he would never know what happened to his friends and crew.
if you'r talking about guilt you can add tht he felt guilty that his friend is stuck in the DQ instead of him
 
if you'r talking about guilt you can add tht he felt guilty that his friend is stuck in the DQ instead of him

And not give a thought to his girlfriend and his parents who are worried sick because of him? I think there is something wrong about that. There's also all the becoming a criminal thing. What if he were wrong and ended up in jail for a long time in that reality as a result of his shenanigans?
 
And not give a thought to his girlfriend and his parents who are worried sick because of him? I think there is something wrong about that. There's also all the becoming a criminal thing. What if he were wrong and ended up in jail for a long time in that reality as a result of his shenanigans?
I actually do agree with this. I understand that he wanted to fix it once he found out it was not real, but before that if it was me I would have wanted to stay
 
I actually do agree with this. I understand that he wanted to fix it once he found out it was not real, but before that if it was me I would have wanted to stay

It was as real as the other reality. The people around him (including his girlfriend) were as real as can be. He just chose to ignore them and decided to become a law breaker.
 
For one thing I don't get why they needed to have so many things blown to pieces. It seems they couldn't see another way to write an interesting show.
I'm confused... what are you complaining about? The lack of staid, boring yet "realistic" plotlines like "lets go mining for unobtanium", or the excess of attacks from the "alien of the week"?
 
DS9 wasn't all bullheads and consoles being blown away yet it was a very interesting show.

I agree. DS9 was an interesting show and imho probably the best written of the bunch but at the same time, it was a different kind of show. It was supposed to be Dodge City in space. They didn't have gunfights at high noon every day in Dodge City.
 
I agree. DS9 was an interesting show and imho probably the best written of the bunch but at the same time, it was a different kind of show. It was supposed to be Dodge City in space. They didn't have gunfights at high noon every day in Dodge City.
I think it is hard to compare them because they are so different, I think both are great in their own ways
 
I'm confused... what are you complaining about? The lack of staid, boring yet "realistic" plotlines like "lets go mining for unobtanium", or the excess of attacks from the "alien of the week"?
I am complaining about the overuse of the reset button, the angry alien of the week, the lack of continuity. I call that lazy writing.
 
I am complaining about the overuse of the reset button, the angry alien of the week, the lack of continuity. I call that lazy writing.

It is probably tougher to write alien-of-the-week, than to take one concept and spread it out over 13 weeks.
 
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