Excessive Criticism of "STAR TREK VOYAGER"

[Guy Gardener]

It's called integration, and was clearly explained in Relativity.

If the Timecops see multiple versions of the same person in one time line, they all get Tuvixed back into one person.

 

[locutus101]

It's called integration, and was clearly explained in Relativity.

If the Timecops see multiple versions of the same person in one time line, they all get Tuvixed back into one person.

Let's pretend that that makes sense.

 

[MacLeod]

Let's face it there is only one person you need when it comes to all this timey-wimey stuff. )

 

[Guy Gardener]

JANEWAY: Wait a minute, let me get this straight. I'm going back in time to stop Braxton. But you already have him.
DUCANE: And there's a third one in our brig. I arrested him earlier today. But, don't worry. They'll all be reintegrated in time for the trial.
JANEWAY: And Seven?

DUCANE: You'll both be returned to your time frame. You'll be reintegrated with the other Seven of Nine. Since none of your time jumps were to your foreseeable future, only the past, I see no reason to resequence your memory engrams. But remember the Temporal Prime Directive. Discuss your experiences with no one.
JANEWAY: Understood.

They just explained that reintegrating the healthy Braxton from the end of Futures end and the Grampa Braxton form the bulk of Futures End, left one time crazy super Braxton, but in the end of relativity Seven consents to integration without question.

Once a Drone, always a Drone.

Oh, the actor who played Ducane is currently on 12 Monkeys helping a time traveller.

 

[locutus101]

They just explained that reintegrating the healthy Braxton from the end of Futures end and the Grampa Braxton form the bulk of Futures End, left one time crazy super Braxton, but in the end of relativity Seven consents to integration without question.

Once a Drone, always a Drone.

Oh, the actor who played Ducane is currently on 12 Monkeys helping a time traveller.

That's weird.

 

[Sophie74656]

II count 12 for Voyager

1>Parallax
2>Time and Again
3>Eye of the Needle
4>Death Wish
5>Future's End, Part I
6>Future's End, Part II
7>Before And After
8>Timeless
9>Relativity
10>Fury
11>Shattered
12>Endgame

If you count Future's End as 1 then it's 11, and if you do that you have to count DSN's "Past Tense" as 1 making it 10 for DSN (11 counting "Past Tense" as two. SO VOY did one more time travel show than DSN

I'm not sure if death wish truly counts as time travel or not. But 11 or 12 episodes either way it's basically the same number as both TNG and DS9...and TOS if you adjust for their shorter number of seasons

 

[Sophie74656]

Let's pretend that that makes sense.

If we can pretend that dermal and bone regenerators, phasers, transporters,warp drive, replicators, holodecks, and countless alien races makes sense why not this too

 

[Guy Gardener]

That's weird.

The really weird bit would have been if they insisted on integrating her with the 3 dead Seven of Nine's from the failed missions before the credits started

BRAXTON: Any luck reviving her?
DUCANE: No, sir.
BRAXTON: We'll have to recruit her again.
DUCANE: Sir, a fourth jump? She could suffer neural damage, even temporal psychosis.
BRAXTON: Unless we repair the timeline, she's going to die. We're giving her another chance to save her crew and herself. We'll go back and retrieve Seven of Nine a microsecond before the explosion. That way no one will notice she's gone. Tempus fugit, Lieutenant.
DUCANE: Raise shields. Time frame, stardate 52861.274. Delta Quadrant. Spatial coordinates eighty seven theta by two seventy one. Target, USS Voyager.

 

[Anwar]

Ok...not sure what the point is then, given that DS9 also showed off different aliens races that were not previously scene in Trekverse.

Only the Vorta, Jem'Hadar and Founders.

It depends on the quality of the episode, if the writers make a point out of it and then ignore it. It isn't a blanket statement that can be made.

When Shades of Gray is more fondly remembered than Scorpion, you know there's something going on here.

 

[Sophie74656]

Only the Vorta, Jem'Hadar and Founders.

Wasn't it more than that? Tosk and those people with that game...go along home or something

 

[fireproof78]

Only the Vorta, Jem'Hadar and Founders.

And the Wadi, the Prophets (kind of), Argrathi, Tosk, Hunters, among others. A lot of the aliens were very episodic and one shot. Kind of annoying given that the station didn't go anywhere.

When Shades of Gray is more fondly remembered than Scorpion, you know there's something going on here.

Who in the wide world of Trek is liking "Shades of Gray" over "Scorpion?"

I mean, I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I need to find them and show them both episodes and explain the error of their ways.

Wasn't it more than that? Tosk and those people with that game...go along home or something

It's a hyperbolic statement for the sake of making the point that DS9 is not as maligned for the same slights as VOY committed because VOY is the whipping boy of the Trek franchise...or not.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Guy Gardener said: ↑
They just explained that reintegrating the healthy Braxton from the end of Futures end and the Grampa Braxton form the bulk of Futures End, left one time crazy super Braxton, but in the end of relativity Seven consents to integration without question.

Once a Drone, always a Drone.

Oh, the actor who played Ducane is currently on 12 Monkeys helping a time traveler.

Oh, and for the last 7 years Relativity's "Captain Braxton" has played Detective Korshak on Rizzoli & Isles. No sign of time travel thus far, but there are still 3 eps left in the series so "who know".

That's weird.

Mr. Locutus, "We're Star Fleet Officers..."

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I remember how "some" people (And Braxton) complained that Voyager was doing a story (Relativity) about punishing people for something they hadn't done yet.

And then three years later...

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[Tosk]

Sisko doesn't seem to remember the events of this episode and what he saw of the future in later episodes either.

Why would he? From his perspective it never happened.

Only the Vorta, Jem'Hadar and Founders.

And the Prophets, Tosk, Wadi, Klaestrons, Rakhari, Kobliads, Miradorn, Ennis and Nol-Ennis...and that's just season one.

 

[locutus101]

Only the Vorta, Jem'Hadar and Founders.
...

You didn't see much of that series, did you?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Oh, and for the last 7 years Relativity's "Captain Braxton" has played Detective Korshak on Rizzoli & Isles. No sign of time travel thus far, but there are still 3 eps left in the series so "who know".

In the final episode of Quantum Leap...

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Bruce McGill played a bartender, the architect who had been moving Sam Becket around through time for the last 3 years.

The bartender's friends call him God.

 

[Tosk]

He'll always be D-Day to me.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Jack Dalton.

 

[Anwar]

And the Prophets, Tosk, Wadi, Klaestrons, Rakhari, Kobliads, Miradorn, Ennis and Nol-Ennis...and that's just season one.

You didn't see much of that series, did you?

I'm talking about the ones with any staying power the series bothered fleshing out.

 

[Tosk]

I'm talking about the ones with any staying power the series bothered fleshing out.

I went back through the conversation and I'm not sure what the original point is regarding new species. Could you spell it out for me?

 

[locutus101]

I'm talking about the ones with any staying power the series bothered fleshing out.

Well, then in that case there weren't that many of them in the other shows either.