So why did Janeway specifically state that there was NO way to replace the torpedoes if they could do it easily, it would have been better all round if she said nothing at all.
Excessive Criticism of "STAR TREK VOYAGER"
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I LOVE THE BEATS AND THE SHOUTING!
Reminds me of Ds9: "I hate beets!"
Because back then she didn't have years of experience traveling the Delta Quadrant and discovering the riches that it offers...nor the ingenuity of the Maquis.
I take it to mean that at the time they could not replace them. They figured out a way later.
Right. Janeway made a joke once about B'Elanna fixing things in a way that appeared like she went out of her way to work around Starfleet regulations.Because back then she didn't have years of experience traveling the Delta Quadrant and discovering the riches that it offers...nor the ingenuity of the Maquis.
Because back then she didn't have years of experience traveling the Delta Quadrant and discovering the riches that it offers...nor the ingenuity of the Maquis.
"We do the improbable right away; for the impossible it may take a while longer."
Another conversation reminded me of an aspect that EVERY series did and Voyager gets the most criticism for...time travel.
I just went through the episodes listed on Memory Alpha and did a count. TNG has 12 episodes, DS9 has 11, and Voyager has 11. So Voyager has the same number of time travel episodes as DS9, and TNG has even more, but Voyager gets all the criticism of using it too much.
I just went through the episodes listed on Memory Alpha and did a count. TNG has 12 episodes, DS9 has 11, and Voyager has 11. So Voyager has the same number of time travel episodes as DS9, and TNG has even more, but Voyager gets all the criticism of using it too much.
They made a big mistake in Future's End. If Braxton doesn't remember his sojourn on Earth "because it never happened" then how come Janeway and her crew do? It's either both or neither!
Voyager has never been known for its coherence.
He does remember it. There is a later episode, Relativity that revolves around it.
How can he remember it? He was young, on earth he was an old man. How can a young man remember his days as an old man?
In Relativity there are several versions of him, one of those versions experiened 30 years on Earth and planted the explosive on Voyager
SEVEN: Captain, I believe your future self is suffering from temporal psychosis.
BRAXTON: Well of course I am, you pedantic drone. The only way for me, for us, to recover is to obliterate Voyager from the timeline. That way, none of the events that caused this illness will have occurred.
JANEWAY: What events?
BRAXTON: Thirty years of exile on twentieth century Earth. The temporal inversion in the Takara sector. Three violations that I had to repair
You don't have to remind me the episodes of Voyager. I've seen them all, many times. I am just saying that it's ridiculous. No question about it.
Voyager is full of holes, but this one is an abyss!
Oh a lesson in not disrupting the timeline from mr. I'm my own grandpa.
I think Bashir said something like that.
I thought it was because they went on a fetch quest and the reward was some torpedoes. Do those enough and you get the achievement and your own torpedo maker.Because back then she didn't have years of experience traveling the Delta Quadrant and discovering the riches that it offers...nor the ingenuity of the Maquis.
Time travel is just one big headache in the making.
Someone else on this page mentioned Bashir thinking he was destined to be his own great-grandfather. I always thought it was funny when he said to O'Brien, "Wait till we get back to the station and you find out I never existed (did he say we or you?)". And of course O'Brien just smirks about it. But it is kind of an illogical statement. How would they know he never existed, if he never existed?
That depends. If they moved to an alternate reality then they would know but the people in the reality wouldn't. Like what happened to Worf in that episode. He was the only one to notice a difference. Add time travel to that and you have it.
II count 12 for Voyager
1>Parallax
2>Time and Again
3>Eye of the Needle
4>Death Wish
5>Future's End, Part I
6>Future's End, Part II
7>Before And After
8>Timeless
9>Relativity
10>Fury
11>Shattered
12>Endgame
If you count Future's End as 1 then it's 11, and if you do that you have to count DSN's "Past Tense" as 1 making it 10 for DSN (11 counting "Past Tense" as two. SO VOY did one more time travel show than DSN
