Examples of Transwarp Beaming?

[Vger23]

As much as I dislike the Transwarp beaming in the new films, I realized that there are examples of this in TOS.

Gamesters of Triskelion immediately comes to mind, with Kirk and company transported across a vast expanse by the Providers.

Are there other examples of "'magical teleportation" that could be Transwarp beaming?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

As much as I dislike the Transwarp beaming in the new films, I realized that there are examples of this in TOS.

Gamesters of Triskelion immediately comes to mind, with Kirk and company transported across a vast expanse by the Providers.

Are there other examples of "'magical teleportation" that could be Transwarp beaming?

Gary Seven in "Assignment: Earth."

 

[Vger23]

As much as I dislike the Transwarp beaming in the new films, I realized that there are examples of this in TOS.

Gamesters of Triskelion immediately comes to mind, with Kirk and company transported across a vast expanse by the Providers.

Are there other examples of "'magical teleportation" that could be Transwarp beaming?

Gary Seven in "Assignment: Earth."

Right...probably even more obvious than the one I listed!

What about Kirk being taken off the ship in "Arena?"

 

[CorporalCaptain]

What about Kirk being taken off the ship in "Arena?"

Yes!

 

[Count]

Trelane used technology to advance his skills, can his teleporting the ship and crew around count as transwarp beaming or is that more of a grey area?

What about Loki and the other guy from Charon? didn't one of them appear on the bridge from lightyears away?

Also, pretty sure that the Enterprise and crew being sent 1000 light years away in "that which survives" counts as transwarp beaming too. it wasn't pushed or spend up, it was in orit of the planet one second and 1000 light years away afterwards with a slight out of phase warp field.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Trelane used technology to advance his skills, can his teleporting the ship and crew around count as transwarp beaming or is that more of a grey area?

What about Loki and the other guy from Charon? didn't one of them appear on the bridge from lightyears away?

Also, pretty sure that the Enterprise and crew being sent 1000 light years away in "that which survives" counts as transwarp beaming too. it wasn't pushed or spend up, it was in orit of the planet one second and 1000 light years away afterwards with a slight out of phase warp field.

Yes, "That Which Survives" is absolutely an example.

"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" is not. Bele arrived in an invisible spaceship that disintegrated right as it deposited him on the bridge.

As for Trelane in "The Squire of Gothos," I think not. I think that his powers were of a higher order, like Q's in TNG.

 

[Timo]

What is transwarp beaming, exactly? When introduced in the 2009 movie, it seemed to refer to any beaming into or out of a ship at warp, i.e. across a warp border. The super-teleportation examples above represent somewhat different feats.

Technically, "Day of the Dove" has Kirk beam from A to B at high warp. Is that two transwarp beamings back to back - or none, considering he supposedly stayed within one and the same warp field all the time?

In "Tholian Web", Kirk is grabbed in a transporter beam at location A and materialized with great difficulty at location B, after the ship had gone through very exotic interdimensional hoops. Probably a warp barrier or two were crossed in that process, too.

When Mudd's Women were beamed aboard, was Mudd fleeing at warp or impulse? The dialogue doesn't tell, although other Star Trek would seem to establish the context as sublight.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[MacLeod]

Transwarp being seems to be transporting over distances of light years. Or at the very least beyond usual transporter operations which are only tens of thousands of km. i.e Beaming from Orbit to planet - normal transporting. Beaming from planet to a moon orbiting at 360 000km - transwarp beaming.

 

[BillJ]

What is transwarp beaming, exactly? When introduced in the 2009 movie, it seemed to refer to any beaming into or out of a ship at warp, i.e. across a warp border. The super-teleportation examples above represent somewhat different feats.

Scott describes it as long distance transporting. Like beaming a grapefruit from one planet to the next.

 

[Metryq]

What is transwarp beaming, exactly? When introduced in the 2009 movie, it seemed to refer to any beaming into or out of a ship at warp, i.e. across a warp border. The super-teleportation examples above represent somewhat different feats.

Scott describes it as long distance transporting. Like beaming a grapefruit from one planet to the next.

I'm with Timo on this one, and the 2009 movie is just too painful to watch for me to check Scotty's lines. Also, I do not recall the term "transwarp" appearing anywhere in TOS. And since JarJar Trek sweeps away all canon, why should it be taken as canon?

 

[BillJ]

What is transwarp beaming, exactly? When introduced in the 2009 movie, it seemed to refer to any beaming into or out of a ship at warp, i.e. across a warp border. The super-teleportation examples above represent somewhat different feats.

Scott describes it as long distance transporting. Like beaming a grapefruit from one planet to the next.

I'm with Timo on this one, and the 2009 movie is just too painful to watch for me to check Scotty's lines. Also, I do not recall the term "transwarp" appearing anywhere in TOS. And since JarJar Trek sweeps away all canon, why should it be taken as canon?

It amazes me when people come into a thread with nothing to add and post just to take a swipe at a movie they don't like.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

It's perfectly clear that the OP was inquiring about long-distance beaming in TOS over light-years, and asking for other examples.

So far we have 4:

"The Gamesters of Triskelion"
"Assignment: Earth"
"That Which Survives"
"Arena"

Depending on how you look at it, perhaps "The Squire of Gothos" qualifies too.

 

[Ronald Held]

Is transwarp beaming transporting objects large distances where the starting and ending location are traveling at sublight speeds, or does it involve one location traveling at warp speed?

 

[Nerys Myk]

What is transwarp beaming, exactly? When introduced in the 2009 movie, it seemed to refer to any beaming into or out of a ship at warp, i.e. across a warp border. The super-teleportation examples above represent somewhat different feats.

Scott describes it as long distance transporting. Like beaming a grapefruit from one planet to the next.

I'm with Timo on this one, and the 2009 movie is just too painful to watch for me to checked Scotty's lines. Also, I do not recall the term "transwarp" appearing anywhere in TOS. And since JarJar Them sweeps away all canon, why should it be taken as canon?

Last time I check all my Star Trek DVDs are still on the shelf and are part of the officially approved material. So no canon has been swept away. Perhaps you meant continuity? Though its intact as well.
The term "transwarp beaming" doesn't have to be used to find examples of it. If certain parameters are met, then it's a possible example of transwarp beaming.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Is transwarp beaming transporting objects large distances where the starting and ending location are traveling at sublight speeds, or does it involve one location traveling at warp speed?

I think that the key concern here in this thread is the traversing of large distances, period. It's clear in TOS that the Federation lacked anything like the kinds of alien technology under discussion. So, examples in TOS when Federation technology beamed people just don't wash here, and so trying to frame the issue in terms of whether the target or destination is also traveling at warp, in order to wedge TOS Federation technology into the discussion, is a hijack of the topic.

 

[Ithekro]

The two film examples of transwarp beaming are:

2009: Kirk and Scott transport from a planetary body to a starship traveling at warp speeds several light years away.

STID: Khan transports from a hovering craft on Earth to the Klingon Homeworld which is also many light years away.

 

[drt]

I always felt that Scotty ultimately figured out the solution to transwarp beaming from the incident in Assignment Earth. It was just gifted to nuScotty a couple of decades (perhaps as many as twelve) earlier.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Is transwarp beaming transporting objects large distances where the starting and ending location are traveling at sublight speeds, or does it involve one location traveling at warp speed?

I think that the key concern here in this thread is the traversing of large distances, period. It's clear in TOS that the Federation lacked anything like the kinds of alien technology under discussion. So, examples in TOS when Federation technology beamed people just don't wash here, and so trying to frame the issue in terms of whether the target or destination is also traveling at warp, in order to wedge TOS Federation technology into the discussion, is a hijack of the topic.

i don't see it as a hijack.... definitely related... somewhere in between "standard" transportation, and 2 vessels going at warp (or even just one at warp) as well as long distance. All of these things are well beyond TOS's standard federation transportation tech... and i think legitimate wonder if that's considered transwarp or something else (whether related or not)

 

[Enterprise1701]

For reference, the TNG season 7 episode "Bloodlines" stated that the range of a standard Federation transporter (in 2370) was about 40,000 kilometers. The episode introduced "subspace beaming", an impractically unsafe but powerful transporter technology with a range of several light years. Note that a subspace transporter sends signals through subspace while a normal transporter sends signals through normal space.

JJTrek has not specified how transwarp beaming is supposed to work, but it is not impossible that "transwarp beaming" is synonymous with "subspace beaming".

Also, the Vedala in TAS - "The Jihad" beam the expeditionary party from their mobile asteroid to another planet that appeared to be in a different system. That's probably transwarp beaming.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Is transwarp beaming transporting objects large distances where the starting and ending location are traveling at sublight speeds, or does it involve one location traveling at warp speed?

I think that the key concern here in this thread is the traversing of large distances, period. It's clear in TOS that the Federation lacked anything like the kinds of alien technology under discussion. So, examples in TOS when Federation technology beamed people just don't wash here, and so trying to frame the issue in terms of whether the target or destination is also traveling at warp, in order to wedge TOS Federation technology into the discussion, is a hijack of the topic.

i don't see it as a hijack.... definitely related... somewhere in between "standard" transportation, and 2 vessels going at warp (or even just one at warp) as well as long distance. All of these things are well beyond TOS's standard federation transportation tech... and i think legitimate wonder if that's considered transwarp or something else (whether related or not)

My point was that anything that the TOS Enterprise did was clearly not transwarp beaming of the kind demonstrated in nuTrek. Just what is the point of trying to claim that beaming Mudd and "his cargo" aboard in "Mudd's Women" was an example of transwarp beaming?