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Eugenics war (world war 3)

Of course none of this helps explain why Khan would think it was closer to two centuries past his reign, in The Wrath of Khan; surely he'd have heard from someone that it was closer to three hundred years by that point.

He's Khan - he wouldn't give a damn about how much "objective" time has passed, if he himself has only slept for two centuries...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Science is about changing your mind as new facts become available [through the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment].
I fixed that for you.
 
Of course none of this helps explain why Khan would think it was closer to two centuries past his reign, in The Wrath of Khan; surely he'd have heard from someone that it was closer to three hundred years by that point.

Who would he have talked to? Khan only spoke with a few Enterprise officers over a few days, got to study some of the ship's library, and then he had no contact with the outside world for 15 years. I doubt he talked to the scientists at Regula One much before he started slaughtering them.
 
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But, maybe he glanced at a calendar while perusing those technical journals, wondering how long til his next birthday was...

--Alex
 
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But, maybe he glanced at a calendar while perusing those technical journals, wondering how long til his next birthday was...

--Alex
 
But the thing is that the "200 years" reference wasn't wrong until latter-day Trek chronologies made it wrong. Heck, even Kirk said that getting locked up for 200 years "ought to be just about right" in "Tomorrow is Yesterday," and he ought to know.
 
Odds really are that she recognized Khan immediately (that's her specific field of expertise, after all), and realized how controversial the encounter was - so she lied and misdirected from the get-go, biding her time until she could wrap the superman around her, uh, wrist and proceed with her personal plans of world conquest...

Of course, this would mean that the real Khan had nothing whatsoever to do with Sikhs, or else McGivers' lie would not be effective. But that's what it looks like anyway. :vulcan:

Timo Saloniemi
 
But the thing is that the "200 years" reference wasn't wrong until latter-day Trek chronologies made it wrong. Heck, even Kirk said that getting locked up for 200 years "ought to be just about right" in "Tomorrow is Yesterday," and he ought to know.

The Wrath of Khan is the movie that clearly states "In the 23rd century..." at the beginning, though. And gives 2283 as a past date in dialogue.

I now have this image of McGivers dying and Khan going, "Damn. I never did get around to asking her what year it was."
 
You really think Khan spent a whole lot of time talking to her.

:)

In "Space Seed," he told her frankly that she was mentally inferior.
So to him, it would probably be like talking to a kid.

Kor
 
But the thing is that the "200 years" reference wasn't wrong until latter-day Trek chronologies made it wrong. Heck, even Kirk said that getting locked up for 200 years "ought to be just about right" in "Tomorrow is Yesterday," and he ought to know.

Only that Squire of Gothos implied a much different date.
 
You really think Khan spent a whole lot of time talking to her.

I'd imagine that Khan's sideline as a hairdresser took up a lot of their time.

Oh, and Eugenics War and World War Three are completely separate events.

Not as far as I'm concerned. TOS stated that they were one & the same thing, and that's good enough for me. I don't pay much attention to the retcons that TNG introduced into it.
 
Didn't Spock mention multiple World Wars in the likelihood of it being a III and IV as oppose to just The Great War and World War II?
 
Didn't Spock mention multiple World Wars in the likelihood of it being a III and IV as oppose to just The Great War and World War II?

He runs down the number of casualties of WWI, II, and III in "Bread and Circuses" (Getting the totals wrong for WWI & II, as well). Spock refers to the Eugenics Wars as "the last of your World Wars" in "Space Seed" and McCoy confirms this.
 
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