Equinox question

[rich6666]

I have always wondered what if the Equinox was a defiant class star ship, Pretty beat up but easily repairable. Now, forget about the genocide bit of the episode, that wasn’t found out until later on if I remember correctly.

When the Captain came onboard from the Equinox, Jayneway quoted some Starfleet policy which if I remember went something like, in a case of two or more star fleet ships getting lost the more powerful vessel will take overall command making the captain pretty much an admiral of the two vessels.

So in the case of the Equinox becoming a defiant class star ship would the defiant become the lead ship that jayneway will have to take orders from? Or, would Jayneway try to claim her ship is the more powerful of the two and more suited for the lead role?

Now, I could see their being a really upset captain if it was say an Akira type ship or excelsior (refit). Which I would assume is on par with an intrepid

 

[Brit]

That's a pretty good question, and one we really don't know the answer too mainly because we don't know when the Akira's were commissioned so I don't know if one would have been deployed so the Caretaker could grab it. Voyager was a brand new ship from a brand new class, it had a lot of new technology, you would have to ask which ships were really more powerful.

The Defiant is actually a kind of one trick pony built only for battle, that doesn't really make it more powerful. I would be inclined to think you would have to get into maybe the "Ambassador" classes (multi purpose ships) to actually consider them more powerful than Voyager.

Brit

 

[nx1701g]

The exact regulation is:

Starfleet Regulation 191 Article 14: In a combat situation involving more than one ship, command falls to the vessel with tactical superiority, should there not be a higher ranking officer present.

Because of it being the vessel with Tactical superiority (unless the Defiant was out of torpedoes or maybe had discharged all its phaser power cells) the Defiant would take control over the minifleet.

 

[Evil Person]

UNLESS, you forget the most crucial part, unless the ship with tactical superiority is damaged heavyer than the other ship, command then falls to the next most powerful ship.


And in the Episode Relitivity were we see voyager in space dock, there are like 4 Arkia's just flying around and 5 in space dock, oh and at the end of voyager, we see about 3 when they are in formation trying to destroy the sphear, oh and in Message in a bottle there is one Arkia trying to take out the Warbirds, along with a nebula and a defiant.

What if the Equinox was the promethius,\, though improbable, i couldent have been made much longer after voyager, or before it.

 

[rich6666]

I do not see any evidence that a defiant class ship is far more powerful than an intrepid.

If I remember rightly, the Defiant Captained by Worf only just got passed an Excelsior class (refit). Now, Worf is not the type of person to hold back in any fight even against fellow Starfleet personnel, it’s just not in his nature.

To me the reason why Starfleet are moving towards having more defiant class ships is to:
Relief the manpower shortage that they encountered at the start of the Dominion war.
Can build maybe 2-4 Defiant ‘s for the same materials, length of time it takes to make one galaxy type ship with crew to spare.
Losing a Defiant is not as cost effective in materials and man power as losing a capital ship

I could see Jayneway putting a seriously strong argument across that the intrepid is the more powerful ship of the two

 

[Guy Gardener]

And putting genocide back on the table, if Ransom had the superior ship, and took command, he could have said to Kathy, "this is what we are doing, this is how we will get him in less than a life time and you are going to follow suit and keep step with what we are doing on the Equinox or you'll be in chains in my brig when I am the toast of the alpha quadrant for bringing home two ships".

 

[C.E. Evans]

I do not see any evidence that a defiant class ship is far more powerful than an intrepid.

Agreed. The Defiant is extremely powerful for a ship of its size, but I believe it is less than half the size of the Voyager and perhaps even slightly smaller than the Equinox. It certainly ain't faster or has more armaments than the Voyager.

The Defiant's big claim to fame is its two pulse phaser cannons and ablative armor, but the Voyager ain't no slouch in the weapons department either.

Forget the Defiant-class. The Intrepid-class is as much a "Borg buster" too, IMO...