Episode of the Week : A Taste of Armageddon
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Eight.
An excellent episode, undermined only by relatively minor issues, such as the contrived drama of Fox versus Scotty (that could have been turned down from 11 to 6 or 7, with no loss of effect) and the landing party hiding back in their prison cell (not too bright; better would have been shacking up at Mea's).
The overarching theme and premise—brilliant.
An excellent episode, undermined only by relatively minor issues, such as the contrived drama of Fox versus Scotty (that could have been turned down from 11 to 6 or 7, with no loss of effect) and the landing party hiding back in their prison cell (not too bright; better would have been shacking up at Mea's).
The overarching theme and premise—brilliant.
I love Kirk's cocky attitude in this episode--a ten for me. 
General Order 24 is probably exactly what Kirk would have used in "Operation: Annihilate" had they not figured out how to deep fry the alien vomit bags. One could hypothesize it exists for precisely that sort of circumstance, and not really aimed at "glassing" a planet to save a starship.
This is one of those episodes I did not appreciate when I was younger and then later came to appreciate he maturity of the theme and the writing.
This is another episode severly affected by cheap sets, and costumes. It would be amazing to see an episode like this filmed again with the same script but on a big budget
This is another episode severly affected by cheap sets, and costumes. It would be amazing to see an episode like this filmed again with the same script but on a big budget
This episode has always been one of my favorites, I gave it a 10.
It does give us a memorable blooper reel moment. It looks like it's the wide angle master take with everybody including extras in the scene, just as Anan 7 says "Our people die, our culture lives on."
Then Shatner screws up.
Kirk: Do you mean to tell me... That was quite a thing you told me!
Then Shatner screws up.
Kirk: Do you mean to tell me... That was quite a thing you told me!
ONE OF MY FAVORITES!!!
This episode will always have a special place in my heart because I had the fotonovel, which my dad gave me.
I loved Kirk in this episode. The way he puffs up his chest when Mea shows up, his banter with Anan 7 (You mean by yourself with a disruptor, you can destroy this planet? That's exactly what I mean! I didn't know you were so...formidable. You seem to think I'm joking. Where are the communicators?" I LOVE IT!!!
I wish we had seen more of Yeoman Tamura (sp?). She was a hottie.
I also LOVED Scotty/McCoy vs. Ambassador Fox.
Whenever I think of Scotty in command, I think of this episode. Fox was being a dumbass, but it was great to see him "learn rather quickly" and pick up a disruptor.
A Top 5 episode for me, I think. Easily Top 10.
This episode will always have a special place in my heart because I had the fotonovel, which my dad gave me.
I loved Kirk in this episode. The way he puffs up his chest when Mea shows up, his banter with Anan 7 (You mean by yourself with a disruptor, you can destroy this planet? That's exactly what I mean! I didn't know you were so...formidable. You seem to think I'm joking. Where are the communicators?" I LOVE IT!!!
I wish we had seen more of Yeoman Tamura (sp?). She was a hottie.
I also LOVED Scotty/McCoy vs. Ambassador Fox.
Whenever I think of Scotty in command, I think of this episode. Fox was being a dumbass, but it was great to see him "learn rather quickly" and pick up a disruptor.
A Top 5 episode for me, I think. Easily Top 10.
This had a great underlying theme for the 1960's--a twist on mutual assured destruction.
I think General Order 24 is great. It reminds us that there's a lot of DANGEROUS stuff out there, the Enterprise is a warship not just a scientific vessel, and engaging other cultures is not just some masturbatory kumbiyah progressive fantasy.
I think General Order 24 is great. It reminds us that there's a lot of DANGEROUS stuff out there, the Enterprise is a warship not just a scientific vessel, and engaging other cultures is not just some masturbatory kumbiyah progressive fantasy.
One of my top 5 easily. The Kirk speech about "death, destruction, disease, horror..." is a landmark moment for the series and the franchise as a whole.
This is a perfect description. Just a few too many preachy lines to really knock it over the top for me. I'd go with a 6/7 and say slightly above average.
Gave it a 10. Absolutely one of my top 5 favorites, as so many others have posted.
Nothing clichéd about this:
ANAN: Captain, surely you can see the position we are in. If your people do not report to our disintegration chambers, it is a violation of an agreement that dates back five hundred years.
KIRK: My people are not responsible for your agreements.
ANAN: You will be responsible for an escalation that will destroy everything. Millions of people horribly killed. Complete destruction of our culture here and yes, the culture on Vendikar. Disaster, disease, starvation, horrible, lingering death, pain and anguish!
KIRK: That seems to frighten you.
ANAN: It would frighten any sane man.
KIRK: Yes. You're quite right.
ANAN: Don't you understand, Captain? We have done away with all that. Now you are threatening to bring it down on us again. Are those five hundred people of yours more important than the hundreds of millions of innocent people on Eminiar and Vendikar? What kind of monster are you?
KIRK: I'm a barbarian. You said it yourself.
ANAN: I had hoped I'd spoken only figuratively.
KIRK: Oh, no. You were quite accurate. I plan to prove it to you.
ANAN: Open a channel to the Enterprise. You give me no choice, Captain. We are not bandits, but you force us to act as bandits.
Kirk REVELS in the description of barbarian here, and frankly I've never heard anything like that in SF before or since. This is some of the best dialogue in Trek, along with the earlier discussion in Anan 7's chambers. This is really Shatner at his best as Kirk.
"Sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder."--Spock the Never-lying
Nothing clichéd about this:
ANAN: Captain, surely you can see the position we are in. If your people do not report to our disintegration chambers, it is a violation of an agreement that dates back five hundred years.
KIRK: My people are not responsible for your agreements.
ANAN: You will be responsible for an escalation that will destroy everything. Millions of people horribly killed. Complete destruction of our culture here and yes, the culture on Vendikar. Disaster, disease, starvation, horrible, lingering death, pain and anguish!
KIRK: That seems to frighten you.
ANAN: It would frighten any sane man.
KIRK: Yes. You're quite right.
ANAN: Don't you understand, Captain? We have done away with all that. Now you are threatening to bring it down on us again. Are those five hundred people of yours more important than the hundreds of millions of innocent people on Eminiar and Vendikar? What kind of monster are you?
KIRK: I'm a barbarian. You said it yourself.
ANAN: I had hoped I'd spoken only figuratively.
KIRK: Oh, no. You were quite accurate. I plan to prove it to you.
ANAN: Open a channel to the Enterprise. You give me no choice, Captain. We are not bandits, but you force us to act as bandits.
Kirk REVELS in the description of barbarian here, and frankly I've never heard anything like that in SF before or since. This is some of the best dialogue in Trek, along with the earlier discussion in Anan 7's chambers. This is really Shatner at his best as Kirk.
"Sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder."--Spock the Never-lying
Gave it a 10. Absolutely one of my top 5 favorites, as so many others have posted.
Nothing clichéd about this:
ANAN: Captain, surely you can see the position we are in. If your people do not report to our disintegration chambers, it is a violation of an agreement that dates back five hundred years.
KIRK: My people are not responsible for your agreements.
ANAN: You will be responsible for an escalation that will destroy everything. Millions of people horribly killed. Complete destruction of our culture here and yes, the culture on Vendikar. Disaster, disease, starvation, horrible, lingering death, pain and anguish!
KIRK: That seems to frighten you.
ANAN: It would frighten any sane man.
KIRK: Yes. You're quite right.
ANAN: Don't you understand, Captain? We have done away with all that. Now you are threatening to bring it down on us again. Are those five hundred people of yours more important than the hundreds of millions of innocent people on Eminiar and Vendikar? What kind of monster are you?
KIRK: I'm a barbarian. You said it yourself.
ANAN: I had hoped I'd spoken only figuratively.
KIRK: Oh, no. You were quite accurate. I plan to prove it to you.
ANAN: Open a channel to the Enterprise. You give me no choice, Captain. We are not bandits, but you force us to act as bandits.
Kirk REVELS in the description of barbarian here, and frankly I've never heard anything like that in SF before or since. This is some of the best dialogue in Trek, along with the earlier discussion in Anan 7's chambers. This is really Shatner at his best as Kirk.
"Sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder."--Spock the Never-lying
That is a very good scene. I think Kirk is being somewhat sarcastic near the end of the dialogue but at the same time dead serious with his conviction. Almost as if he is toying with Anan and trying to teach him a lesson at the same time. Extremely well acted.
Even worse was the way the dialog was presented in the Photonovel version they put out in the late 70's. The clichéd dialog was rendered even more indigestible by the random and rampant use of boldface and exclamation points!
Gave it a 10. Absolutely one of my top 5 favorites, as so many others have posted.
Nothing clichéd about this:
ANAN: Captain, surely you can see the position we are in. If your people do not report to our disintegration chambers, it is a violation of an agreement that dates back five hundred years.
KIRK: My people are not responsible for your agreements.
ANAN: You will be responsible for an escalation that will destroy everything. Millions of people horribly killed. Complete destruction of our culture here and yes, the culture on Vendikar. Disaster, disease, starvation, horrible, lingering death, pain and anguish!
KIRK: That seems to frighten you.
ANAN: It would frighten any sane man.
KIRK: Yes. You're quite right.
ANAN: Don't you understand, Captain? We have done away with all that. Now you are threatening to bring it down on us again. Are those five hundred people of yours more important than the hundreds of millions of innocent people on Eminiar and Vendikar? What kind of monster are you?
KIRK: I'm a barbarian. You said it yourself.
ANAN: I had hoped I'd spoken only figuratively.
KIRK: Oh, no. You were quite accurate. I plan to prove it to you.
ANAN: Open a channel to the Enterprise. You give me no choice, Captain. We are not bandits, but you force us to act as bandits.
Kirk REVELS in the description of barbarian here, and frankly I've never heard anything like that in SF before or since. This is some of the best dialogue in Trek, along with the earlier discussion in Anan 7's chambers. This is really Shatner at his best as Kirk.
"Sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder."--Spock the Never-lying
That is a very good scene. I think Kirk is being somewhat sarcastic near the end of the dialogue but at the same time dead serious with his conviction. Almost as if he is toying with Anan and trying to teach him a lesson at the same time. Extremely well acted.
That scene was BITCHIN'.
One of my favorite scenes in all of Trek.
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