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Episode IX Speculation and Discussion

I mentioned this earlier, but it didn't gain any traction, so let's try again: I think there has to be something significant about the fact that the weapon "Dark Rey" is wielding is a red-bladed Lightsaber Pike and not a never-before-seen more generic double-bladed saber.... I'm just not sure what.
 
Saul said:
I didn't say that, did i?
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The implication for "rule of cool" seemed to come from Abrams was more what I was addressing.
Saul said:
I'm talking about the context of the vision and why would Rey have a vision of a double bladed red lightsaber.
So i'm inclined to think its not a vision but actually real.
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Rey having a doubled bladed lightsaber, given her history with a staff weapon, makes sense to me. If it is her vision, and she has been studying the Jedi texts, then she would have awareness of different saber types. If it is Kylo's vision (another possibility) he could also be aware of different saber types and thus that is part of his vision.

There are multiple possibilities here, none of which we have enough context for to go beyond speculation.
 
Hell for all we know it might not even be an actual vision, it could be a fantasy sequence showing what could happen if whatever Palpatine is planning succeeds. At this point there's not way we could possibly say it definitely is or is not something.

Tuskin38 said:
No it doesn't.

The story group are overseers, they're not the end all.

They're there to guide the writers working in the universe, but they don't have god powers.
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It was also in a Tweet, not a book, movie, comic, ect. I can't really see them deciding what can or can't be done based solely off of one random Tweet.
 
One thing mentioned by Yoda early in The Clone Was series, was that each of the clone troopers is different in the Force. Yoda sees them each as individual people in the Force, not the same person copied millions of times.
 
Has anyone mentioned the possibility that Rey lost her/Luke's light saber and is just using the first weapon available (possibly after defeating or disarming a Knight of Ten)?
 
JD said:
Hell for all we know it might not even be an actual vision, it could be a fantasy sequence showing what could happen if whatever Palpatine is planning succeeds. At this point there's not way we could possibly say it definitely is or is not something.


It was also in a Tweet, not a book, movie, comic, ect. I can't really see them deciding what can or can't be done based solely off of one random Tweet.
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The Story Group isn't "making decisions based on Tweets"; what Pablo's Tweets are doing is clarifying and revealing decisions that have already been made.
 
flavaflav said:
And.... that explains the dark robes you seem to have a problem with in regards to Morpheus' idea.
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More a question of how it all comes together. The visual language is very evocative of Daro Side users like we've seen in the past.

ETA: I don't have a problem with anything by the way. I'm just more curious as to why Rey would be dressed in dark robes at that point in the story, given that we have seen her in white robes in other materials. Luke in dark robes was pretty much is outfit throughout ROTJ. But, we have seen Rey primarily in white colored robes, and then a complete contrast in fully dark robes with a hood up.

Taken separately it's not a problem. Taken all together and it is a highly distinctive visual language within the SW world.
 
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JD said:
And ROTJ is pretty much the only time we have seen a Jedi wearing black, since then the majority of the Force users we see in black have been Dark Siders.
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Well there was Anakin too, and that was before he started mass murdering native Tusken villages. Plus Barris, Luminara, Vos and I think a few others.
I really don't think Jedi were quite so literal as to associate dark cloth with the dark side (the Sith on the other hand...)

But even so, I don't buy that this is just Rey in a new outfit who just happens to grab someone else's red sabre. The lighting of the scene, her make-up and the way it's shot are all meant to point to this being something inherently sinister.

I'm not sure why some think this being a vision is so unlikely. I mean Luke faced and fought a vision of himself, though he did not realise it until after he'd cut it's head off. That was as much a message from the past as it was a warning of what might come to pass, as could "Dark Rey".
Quibbling over "but where did the design come from" seems to miss the whole point of these things. Force visions as a rule are not the product of the imagination but a reflection of reality, given by the cosmic force, which reaches throughout all of space and time. I mean where do people think the ancient Jedi Mystics got their prophecies from?
 
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Reverend said:
But even so, I don't buy that this is just Rey in a new outfit who just happens to grab someone else's red sabre. The lighting of the scene, her make-up and the way it's shot are all meant to point to this being something inherently sinister.
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Exactly. All the elements together indicate a highly sinister framing of the scene, not a battle and grabbing a random weapon.
 
Reverend said:
Well there was Anakin too, and that was before he started mass murdering native Tusken villages. Plus Barris, Luminara, Vos and I think a few others.
I really don't think Jedi were quite so literal as to associate dark cloth with the dark side (the Sith on the other hand...)
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OK, guess I forgot a few.:brickwall:
 
Cutie McWhiskers said:
formerly red arm that was left unexplained where it needed to be explained
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JD said:
And ROTJ is pretty much the only time we have seen a Jedi wearing black, since then the majority of the Force users we see in black have been Dark Siders.
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I should note that at the time ROTJ was made, Luke was wearing clothes Lucas envisioned was standard for the Jedi during their heyday. At the time he imagined the all black clothes as traditional Jedi dress. It was only later that Obi-Wan's robes became the inspiration for Jedi clothes. At the time of filming, Obi-Wan was wearing standard Tatooine robes (just like Uncle Owen).
 
I always wondered about that. It did seem like Luke was wearing some kind of uniform there.
 
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