Episode IX Speculation and Discussion

[jaime]

Here is something that people need to understand: If something is a point of contention narratively and/or has not been internally agreed upon and established, it will not be commented upon by Lucasfilm or associated/affiliated individuals. It does not matter if the thing in question has been previously established onscreen or in a supporting Canonical source.

I know this because I have personally witnessed members of the Lucasfilm Story Group either directly shut down a particular idea that has been ruled out of being part of the official Canon or deflect a question because they were not at liberty to talk about the subject of said question.

The very fact that Rian, Daisy, and others have stated that Rey knows who her parents are is as loud and definitive a Canonical declaration as if that fact had been explicitly stated onscreen.

And yet here we are with IX coming, and apparently it’s going to put it to bed in some way.
So all of those people might well know this.
But we still don’t.
Because the film the finally finishes the new trilogy (which so far seems to have taken a few days, maybe a fortnight, of the characters lives...) isn’t out yet.

If it wasn’t an open question in some manner, if TLJ had put it to bed, would Daisy have recently said that IX will answer that?

I mean you are basically saying they will no comment stuff or not answer. That’s...not quite the same thing as confirming anything is it?

We will wait and see I guess, but SW works traditionally on fairy tale logic.
Princess Leia can probably pee through twelve mattresses or something....

 

[DigificWriter]

If Episode IX were going to answer the question of whether or not Rey knows who her parents are, no comments on the subject would have been made... especially by members of the Story Group.

It's as simple as that.

Aldo, Daisy said we'd learn more about the story of Rey's parents in TRoS, yes, but that doesn't mean that there are still "open questions" about what she knows about them.

 

[jaime]

If Episode IX were going to answer the question of whether or not Rey knows who her parents are, no comments on the subject would have been made... especially by members of the Story Group.

It's as simple as that.

Aldo, Daisy said we'd learn more about the story of Rey's parents in TRoS, yes, but that doesn't mean that there are still "open questions" about what she knows about them.

Well as long as someone knows.
I mean we may as well just save money and not release a movie, and just tell the actors about their characters, swear them to secrecy and leave it that I guess.

 

[DigificWriter]

Well as long as someone knows.
I mean we may as well just save money and not release a movie, and just tell the actors about their characters, swear them to secrecy and leave it that I guess.

The "she" in that comment is Rey.

 

[JD]

Hence the mirrors sequence, and her raising her hand. Maybe her parent was Luke’s hand. *dun dun dun*

I have to confess, my mind went to a very dirty place when I first read this.

She was a failed clone, and the imperial officers told to destroy her were her ‘nobody’ parents who couldn’t bring themselves to kill her as ordered, so they left her on Jakku.
Standard fairytale hidden scion stuff.

I could see it working.
She could be the corporal carrot of the Star Wars universe.

Thinking about it, we really can't totally rule something like this out. So far all we know is that Rey remembers the people who left her on Jakku, and that she thinks those people were her parents. Technically, if they were the people who raised her up to that point and she didn't know about her real origins, then it could be argued that they were her "parents". I would say that could fit in a Vader killed Anikin, certain point of view kind of way.

 

[jaime]

The "she" in that comment is Rey.

Yes.

 

[saddestmoon]

My hunch is that there will definitely be a surprising parent reveal of some sorts for Rey - in the final ST movie.

Place your bets now people!

[saddestmoon sits down at Sabaac table and places his cards face up...]

 

[Campe]

My hunch is that there will definitely be a surprising parent reveal of some sorts for Rey - in the final ST movie.

Place your bets now people!

[saddestmoon sits down at Sabaac table and places his cards face up...]

No bet here. But I will also believe that it won’t be quite what the majority of us expect.

 

[DigificWriter]

My hunch is that there will definitely be a surprising parent reveal of some sorts for Rey - in the final ST movie.

Expecting things that aren't going to happen is what got the SW fandom into the state it's in right now with a tiny but very loud minority somehow managing to convince the rest of the world that they're a majority and the same tired arguments being rehashed about how SW's been ruined and there's more ambiguity about certain things than there actually is.

 

[JD]

Daisy Ridley pretty much came right out and said that there will be some kind of new information revealed about Rey's parents. That doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be changing them into more than nobodies, but it does mean we'll know more about who they were.

 

[saddestmoon]

Expecting things that aren't going to happen is what got the SW fandom into the state it's in right now with a tiny but very loud minority somehow managing to convince the rest of the world that they're a majority and the same tired arguments being rehashed about how SW's been ruined and there's more ambiguity about certain things than there actually is.

I’m not really interested in whatever ‘majority’ / ‘minority’ thinks discussion you’re referring to and am not commenting on that: I’m only going off what I’ve seen onscreen - which is what I’m basing my hunch on.

YMMV, of course.

Personally speaking, I’ve enjoyed TFAs, TLJ, and am looking forward to TROS

 

[DigificWriter]

Daisy Ridley pretty much came right out and said that there will be some kind of new information revealed about Rey's parents. That doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be changing them into more than nobodies, but it does mean we'll know more about who they were.

If we're being perfectly honest, what Daisy said isn't really all that revelatory, nor is it all that surprising. It should've been expected that there was "more to the story" because that's the nature of storytelling; however, there's a difference between there being more story to tell/"more to the story" and an 'ambiguous narrative'.

 

[fireproof78]

Personally speaking, I’ve enjoyed TFAs, TLJ, and am looking forward to TROS

My feelings as well.

 

[jaime]

Expecting things that aren't going to happen is what got the SW fandom into the state it's in right now with a tiny but very loud minority somehow managing to convince the rest of the world that they're a majority and the same tired arguments being rehashed about how SW's been ruined and there's more ambiguity about certain things than there actually is.

Ah yes.
The Leia remembering her mother furore. Completely ruined SW.

 

[fireproof78]

Ah yes.
The Leia remembering her mother furore. Completely ruined SW.

In retrospect it definitely casts a weird light on it.

I think Leia' being Luke's sibling was worse though.

 

[Tuskin38]

If we're being perfectly honest, what Daisy said isn't really all that revelatory, nor is it all that surprising. It should've been expected that there was "more to the story" because that's the nature of storytelling; however, there's a difference between there being more story to tell/"more to the story" and an 'ambiguous narrative'.

Ah yes, moving goal posts.

 

[jaime]

Ah yes, moving goal posts.

Now, now, what he said is true....from a certain point of view.

 

[Campe]

The more I think about Kevin Smith’s comment of the final scene melting one’s mind, the more I wonder if they’re not going to take a page from the original ending of Return of the Jedi, where Obi-Wan and Yoda were supposed to return to their physical form.

The more we see of the Force ghosts in the saga, the more ability they have. From Obi-Wan simply having a disembodied voice at the end of ANH to him being incorporeal in ESB to come in contact with things around him (sitting on the log) in ROTJ to Yoda basically being there in TLJ with only a blue glow around him.

What if this is the main story of TROS? What if this is Palpatine’s end goal. And despite his arrogance, the one way to become immortal is truly through the light.whay if this face melting moment is the corporeal return of all of the Jedi we know who have “become one with the Force.” Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, Luke... what if they all return to their physical forms at the end?

That, in my estimation, would be a little face melty.

 

[fireproof78]

What if this is the main story of TROS? What if this is Palpatine’s end goal. And despite his arrogance, the one way to become immortal is truly through the light.whay if this face melting moment is the corporeal return of all of the Jedi we know who have “become one with the Force.” Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, Luke... what if they all return to their physical forms at the end?

That actually tracks pretty well with several themes running through the saga. I know Qui-Gon's scene was deleted from ROTS, but the novel had a great scene with him discussing how to become immortal and why the Sith struggle to achieve it. Combining that with ROTJ drafts of Obi-Wan returning in full physical form it would be very interesting.

 

[Koric]

In Mel Brooks voice, "No more Death Stars damn it"

2 and half was enough. I'm good with visiting the hulk remains of one.

The superweapon is so played out its beyond cliche. To quote Vader, "Its insignificant next to the power of the Force". Return of the Jedi would been better with Had Abbadon and no Death Star. It went from Had Abbadon and two Death Stars, to just Had Abbadon and no Death Stars, then a DOUBLE sized Death Star that works

Like the original idea in Return of the Jedi this should be just a conflict of the ages with no stupid superweapon in the background. One Death Star was cool. The rest is a retread and a joke. Right?

-Koric