And the Wookieepedia article on the Resistance says they were formed to counter the First Order because the New Republic wouldn't take them seriously.
Episode IX Speculation and Discussion
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That's a generalization based on a lack of specific information about the group's activities.
And given that the First Order cannot get to where they were by TFA from nowhere, there would have had to be constant reassembling of power. And if that happened, then Leia and the Republic were dumber than the leaders of Europe in the years leading up to WWII.
My original comment was not a complaint, but hey, sarcasm, right?
If you consider a meaningless death on a skype call to be heroic, so be it. He wasn't even there, so he wasn't hurt, yet he died anyway. That's dumb writing.
Which is why the writing of the scene was so bad. Had Luke not run away because his feelings were hurt, and disappeared for over a decade, maybe the resistance wouldn't have been in such trouble. Had Luke left the planet when asked, he would have been in a better position. Maybe he should have got off his butt and confronted Kylo earlier with Rey, and maybe battled Snoke. At least that was something. Luke dying was a terrible idea, executed even more terribly.
Using the power is what HURT HIM. Kylo says that earlier in the film, so it didn't come out of nowhere.
My god how many times does it need to be drilled into your head?
You mean the same thing Yoda did?
It's clear that your mind is made up so why discuss it? There are several points of contention, including the fact that Luke did like his teachers did, and felt that he had failed. It's a perfect mirror of what Yoda did in ROTS.
As for his death, the fact that there is the immediate label of "meaningless" and "Skype call" indicates that this conversation is at a dead end.
Guys, I'm not sure why any of you are still replying to @Kirk Prime directly; I've addressed the misconceptions and falsehoods he's latched on to regarding the timeline, but only as a method of spurring the larger conversation.
@fireproof78 , I agree wholeheartedly and I think you and I have a different interpretation about meaningless than others in this conversation. Its very clear, at least to me, that Luke's ForceSkype attempt was, not only a mirror to Poe's distraction at the beginning of the film, but also served to prove him as the greatest of all Jedi.
His act of sacrifice, not only was far from meaningless, as it allowed himself to be something in death he could never allow himself to be in life: a legend. Because of his arrogance. Because of what his actions showed as consequences for the rest of the galaxy. He died, not in a moment of weakness, but in a moment of pure strength, saving his sister and what was left of the idea of peace in the galaxy. He died because he knew the Resistance and freedom from the First Order was far more important than one Jedi. He died knowing the Jedi would live on in Rey. He made that sacrifice.
Some people may interpret that differently, or may choose to outright reject my interpretation and that's their choice. But I for one think it is very clearly there on the screen for all to see.
Agreed. It is wrapped up in so much of the mythology and worldbuilding form the Saga, from Yoda, to Obi-Wan. He didn't need weapons to accomplish his task-he had the Force.
Rey is Kylos twin, the sword of the Jedi, Han knew, because he disagreed with hiding her away in sand planet hell. Uncle Luke knew, and he disagreed too...but they all knew the secret had to be kept, same as he and Leia had been seperated....
Oh and her real names Jaina, and Ben is really called Jacen.
We might as well go whole hog with this.
Boba Fett is going to train Rey in the next movie and give her some Beskar armour, probably Phasmas cast offs. Plasma is of course secretly Fett daughter.
And Luke isn’t really dead, because Mara Jade needs to be written in to win over older fans and lead in to a miniseries...
And..
No
Dominic Monaghan joins the cast - http://collider.com/star-wars-9-dominic-monaghan/amp/
We've got our first leaked set photos, they show Finn, Chewie, and Poe out in a grassy area with some other Resistance soldiers. Several of the pictures show horses covered in fake long fur with what appear to be mocap markers around there face. I'm a big fan of the creatures in the other movies and shows, so I'm very curious to see what kind of creatures the horses are playing.
Elijah Wood was Frodo, Dominic Monaghan was Merry and Charlie on Lost.He was great as Frodo, I'm sure he'll do fine here as well.
