Episode 13 official synopsis

[Stevil2001]

I doubt that Moffat has forgotten that rule, given that a lot of the drama of "The Girl in the Fireplace" hinges on it. If it's been ignore, it's been deliberately ignored.

Besides... "Crossing into established events is strictly prohibited... except for cheap tricks."

 

[Brent]

I also don't think the crack has anything to do about alternate universes, it just a crack in time and space, not to other universe. It is eating time away, or erasing time.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ That's what I think...rewriting time is how the Doctor put it and he seemed genuinely perplexed by that concept. I'm guessing this is something that Time Lord's were taught couldn't happen...and whatever is causing the crack or caused it must be something really dangerous to cause time to be rewritten.

 

[Count Zero]

Considering the Doctor has rewritten time himself not too long ago (in Waters of Mars), I don't really understand why the concept should be so alien to him. It was mentioned several times in the new show that events can be changed, although certain events must stand (or not, see Waters of Mars).

I think his reaction The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone was less being weirded out and more having an idea/forming a plan.

 

[SeerSGB]

Several references to the 1st Doctor this season...

Could be whatever happens at the end reboots things in a way that 11 now becomes the 1st doctor.

 

[Count Zero]

It's probably the Doctor in the Pandorica.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ I was thinking it's either the Valeyard or Omega. The Doctor has referred to the Pandorica as a fairy tale. The other time he referenced a fairy tale was the name the Master gave to the converted Utopia humans the Tocolofane. I'm guessing that whatever is inside that chamber has some kind of connection to the Doctor and the Time Lords.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Several references to the 1st Doctor this season...

Could be whatever happens at the end reboots things in a way that 11 now becomes the 1st doctor.

There was a rumor to that effect floating around last winter.

 

[3chordboy]

Several references to the 1st Doctor this season...

Could be whatever happens at the end reboots things in a way that 11 now becomes the 1st doctor.

There was a rumor to that effect floating around last winter.

does seem strange that the doctor's library card showed the 1st doctor and hadn't updated...certainly would be an interesting twist; the doctor is physically reset back to his first incarnation but retaining 11 lifetimes of memories?

the synopsis said "The Doctor is gone, the TARDIS has been destroyed, and the universe is collapsing." to me that reads as three separate events so i think that the lack of the doctor (perhaps already trapped inside the pandorica?) will result in the TARDIS' destruction rather than him dying in the explosion and being "gone".

 

[John Picard]

Several references to the 1st Doctor this season...

Could be whatever happens at the end reboots things in a way that 11 now becomes the 1st doctor.

I think you just broke Time and Space.

 

[SeerSGB]

Several references to the 1st Doctor this season...

Could be whatever happens at the end reboots things in a way that 11 now becomes the 1st doctor.

I think you just broke Time and Space.

Knew I shouldn't have divided by zero

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Several references to the 1st Doctor this season...
Could be whatever happens at the end reboots things in a way that 11 now becomes the 1st doctor.

There was a rumor to that effect floating around last winter.

does seem strange that the doctor's library card showed the 1st doctor and hadn't updated...certainly would be an interesting twist; the doctor is physically reset back to his first incarnation but retaining 11 lifetimes of memories?

That would pose an interesting solution to the "Morbius" problem; the Doctor has been "reset" before, thus Hartnell can be both the first Doctor and the eighth.

 

[Chaos Descending]

^^^ Hartnell would have been the ninth in that case, no? Eight "Morbius Doctors" + Hartnell.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Right! Ninth!

 

[3chordboy]

does anyone else remember a Moff quote from a few months back saying something along the lines of (and this is heavily paraphrased) "the question of the doctor's regenerations will be cheekily answered".

i was under the impression that this "cheeky" answer was supposed to come in the Richard Curtis episode.

Someone please tell me i'm not crazy, well... not crazy about this comment at least

 

[Chaos Descending]

I thought it was going to be addressed in the Sarah Jane Adventures. I don't know why I was under that impression.

 

[ParticleMan]

does anyone else remember a Moff quote from a few months back saying something along the lines of (and this is heavily paraphrased) "the question of the doctor's regenerations will be cheekily answered".

i was under the impression that this "cheeky" answer was supposed to come in the Richard Curtis episode.

Someone please tell me i'm not crazy, well... not crazy about this comment at least

Maybe he was referring to the psychic head-butt scene in The Lodger where 11 confirms he's definitely the eleventh? Or was Moffat talking about addressing the 13 regeneration limit?

 

[AndyVGR]

I for one don't think it will be reset's or anything like the kind, I think it will go on, too much is at stake for Steven Moffat he's just been given the wheel of the ship and had better keep it afloat if he wants to be the captain (old cliche), as I said in another thread, it can't all be a dream, they did that on Newheart!

 

[Candlelight]

If it is a reset of regenerations then we would have a potential of twenty three actors to play the role...