Enterprise Size Vs. Crew Compliment (Video Discussion)

[C.E. Evans]

Well, lets then talk about the Kelvin Enterprise size, and only having 430 crew?? ( and happen to fit on the Franklin at the end of Beyond.. must have been a blood bath that killed most of the crew..)

Although never established on-screen and an early script for the first movie does give 400, the defunct Experience the Enterprise site gave a crew compliment of 1100 (that said, either very few survived Beyond or they were squished up like sardines in the tiny USS Franklin)

I might be wrong, but I thought that most of the Enterprise crew were offloaded at Starbase Yorktown for shore leave and that Kirk only took a skeleton crew with him to the "simple rescue mission" on Alatamid. If Kirk had only a 100 or so people with him, they could have all fit on the Franklin, IMO.

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

The interior volume of the ship compared to the 1000 member crew, would mean outside of communal areas and work areas, you probably rarely run into someone in the corridors.

I’m terrible at summarizing

I always wondered how they had room for 250 photon torpedoes (of which they only shot a tiny few), but I guess that makes sense. It still doesn't agree with the scale of other ships that interacted with the Enterprise-D and other Galaxy-class starships. For example, you see Sisko standing on top of a Jem'Hadar fighter in "The Ship," and then when a fighter takes on the USS Odyssey, the scale doesn't reflect any of that to the slightest degree when the fighter does its kamikaze run and takes out the Odyssey.

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

I always wondered how they had room for 250 photon torpedoes (of which they only shot a tiny few), but I guess that makes sense.

Trivially easily in fact.

THere's a good article on DITL.org that makes a good case that a conservative estimate of the capacity of the Galaxy-class would allow for 10x that number.

http://www.ditl.org/article-page.php?ArticleID=44&ListID=Articles

 

[tomswift2002]

That visual is pretty striking. Another way to think about how screwy it is is simple division: 1000 people divided by 42 decks means an average population of 24 per deck. You could put the entire compliment of a deck into one room, comfortably. You'd practically never see someone else in the corridors unless they were coming from or going to the same place.



I don't think anyone ever gave an official crew figure for the KT Enterprise. There might've been a tie-in website that had something around a thousand, but the closest thing I can recall specifically is a comic book saying the cyborg crewman Science Officer 0718 gave himself that name because he was the 718th member of the Enterprise's crew. Of course, the KT Enterprise actually is filled with giant open spaces and machinery, and isn't an endless warren of rooms and corridors, which the -D is always depicted as.

Even going back to “The Cage” And TOS. Captain Pike had a crew of about 200 and then Captain Kirk had about 450 people onboard, and yet Starfleet apparently felt that the Enterprise was big enough to accommodate the extra 250 people without making the saucer or engineering hull larger.

But with the D, at the beginning of “Justice” you had Dr. Crusher mention how the D had just finished setting up a colony and it was apparently only the D that was part of the colonization effort. Just think of how many colonists were aboard, plus all their supplies to start the colony. Besides building and food supplies you probably had construction equipment as well. Of course then you had Offenhouse in “The Neutral Zone” compare the D to the Queen Elizabeth 2.

 

[GeorgeKirk]

I was perusing the blueprints the other day and it struck me that, for a ship as mind-boggling huge as the D is, it's insane that there's no public heads. Like suppose you're hanging out with your buddies in 10-Forward (there are dozens of other bars and lounges on the ship, of course, but 10 Forward is where the cool kids hang out) and you have a lot to drink and your bladder is about to burst but your quarters are all the way the heck on Deck 23 in front of the main impulse engines. That's heckuva long way to hoof it!

What I'm saying is the turbolifts probably get peed in a lot.

 

[Arpy]

They take pills in the future. They only need to go to the bathroom once every seven years.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I was perusing the blueprints the other day and it struck me that, for a ship as mind-boggling huge as the D is, it's insane that there's no public heads. Like suppose you're hanging out with your buddies in 10-Forward (there are dozens of other bars and lounges on the ship, of course, but 10 Forward is where the cool kids hang out) and you have a lot to drink and your bladder is about to burst but your quarters are all the way the heck on Deck 23 in front of the main impulse engines. That's heckuva long way to hoof it!

What I'm saying is the turbolifts probably get peed in a lot.

There's a design flaw.
You can tell the people behind the official blueprints didn't have the most active social lives

 

[tomswift2002]

I was perusing the blueprints the other day and it struck me that, for a ship as mind-boggling huge as the D is, it's insane that there's no public heads. Like suppose you're hanging out with your buddies in 10-Forward (there are dozens of other bars and lounges on the ship, of course, but 10 Forward is where the cool kids hang out) and you have a lot to drink and your bladder is about to burst but your quarters are all the way the heck on Deck 23 in front of the main impulse engines. That's heckuva long way to hoof it!

What I'm saying is the turbolifts probably get peed in a lot.

I remember Jonathan Frakes pointing out the one public restroom in the “Journey’s End” documentary. It was somewhere in the middle of the saucer.

 

[Tomalak]

I always wondered how they had room for 250 photon torpedoes (of which they only shot a tiny few), but I guess that makes sense. It still doesn't agree with the scale of other ships that interacted with the Enterprise-D and other Galaxy-class starships. For example, you see Sisko standing on top of a Jem'Hadar fighter in "The Ship," and then when a fighter takes on the USS Odyssey, the scale doesn't reflect any of that to the slightest degree when the fighter does its kamikaze run and takes out the Odyssey.

The Ship in The Ship is almost entirely buried, so I don't think we get a good idea of it's size either way. Impressive that it could burrow into rock and remain completely intact, except for all the dead Jem'Hadar.

 

[Prax]

There's a restroom on the bridge, and another one in Picard's ready room. I wonder if anyone dares to ask the captain if they can use his while the other is occupied.

 

[Arpy]

There's a restroom on the bridge, and another one in Picard's ready room. I wonder if anyone dares to ask the captain if they can use his while the other is occupied.