ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

[LtChange]

To The Death - The neck snapping shot was replaced by a reaction shot of Worf, and the snapping sound was removed.

Sons And Daughters - About half a minute was cut from the final scene, when Worf, Martok and Alexander mixed their blood together and drank it. It was considered too dangerous because of the whole AIDS thing.

By the way, both cuts were made due to British regulations and were then adopted for the rest of Europe. Probably because it would have been too expansive to produce two different versions for the European market.

So you say that I didn't saw to scenes from STS9 (I have the UK DVS's) ... Interesting. I hope that if DS9 will be released on blu they will fix this ...

 

[LtChange]

Question about the discs: I have the European version of the blu-ray (UK) and on Disc 5, on episode Vox Sola, around minute 6 of the episode, my PS3 skips almost a full minute, and my PC blu-ray player plays the part but full with digital artifacts. Anybody else having this problem?

The scene: after Porthos barking at the entity, when Malcom, Travis and Hoshi are talking in the mess hall, skips after the few seconds (or plays with artifacts in the case of my PC) until Hoshi is listening to the entity in the corridor.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Question about the discs: I have the European version of the blu-ray (UK) and on Disc 5, on episode Vox Sola, around minute 6 of the episode, my PS3 skips almost a full minute, and my PC blu-ray player plays the part but full with digital artifacts. Anybody else having this problem?

The scene: after Porthos barking at the entity, when Malcom, Travis and Hoshi are talking in the mess hall, skips after the few seconds (or plays with artifacts in the case of my PC) until Hoshi is listening to the entity in the corridor.

I've already ripped the entire season uncompressed to my media player. I double checked Vox Sola, and it played perfectly - I popped the disc in as well, again, no problem. Check your disc under a bright light for minor debris, give it a gentle wipe, then try again. If you still have no luck, I'd return it for an exchange.

 

[mattman8907]

i can't wait for season three and four to be released on blu ray.

 

[LtChange]

First I would like to know when S2 is coming out ...

 

[MPH]

First I would like to know when S2 is coming out ...

What the season that killed the show! Awful season with only a handful of good episodes. Will probably get S3 and 4 on Blu ray.

 

[LtChange]

I really don't care that it has some really bad episodes, it has some excellent ones as well. Fact is that if there is a complete fail over in sells for S2 on blu-ray CBS might decide it ain't worth to put money on S3 and S4. So as a fan I will support by buying S2 too, and it ain't a hard choice because I want to own everything that is Star Trek on blu-ray.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

First I would like to know when S2 is coming out ...

What the season that killed the show! Awful season with only a handful of good episodes. Will probably get S3 and 4 on Blu ray.

I really don't care that it has some really bad episodes, it has some excellent ones as well. Fact is that if there is a complete fail over in sells for S2 on blu-ray CBS might decide it ain't worth to put money on S3 and S4. So as a fan I will support by buying S2 too, and it ain't a hard choice because I want to own everything that is Star Trek on blu-ray.

Honestly, I've just never got the whole Season 2 is so terrible thing. For me, it's pretty much on a par with Season 1.

 

[LtChange]

I agree Lokai. I too think that it is on par with S1.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I bought season one a week and a half ago for 75 dollars + tax at Target and today I went to Target again and saw it on sale for just 53 dollars. I hate when that happens.

And for me season 2 is slightly better than season one. Both seasons for whatever reason have a stretch of mediocre or bad episodes in the middle of the season.

 

[tomswift2002]

But NTSC due to have its higher framne rate might have less flicker in the image. But PAL runs something like 4% faster than NTSC

Actually it is NTSC that runs faster.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

But NTSC due to have its higher framne rate might have less flicker in the image. But PAL runs something like 4% faster than NTSC

Actually it is NTSC that runs faster.

No, that's not correct. I won't go into a lengthy techy explanation, but do a search on 3:2 pulldown for a detailed breakdown on the NTSC telecine process. PAL definitely runs faster when converted from 24fps material.

 

[Dream]

They filmed a full cast reunion yesterday and it will be included on the Season 2 Blu-Ray.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/04/enterprise-cast-reunion-for-season-2-blu-rays-filming-today/

 

[LtChange]

That is news from April the 10th but still exciting news after 2 weeks too

 

[tomswift2002]

But NTSC due to have its higher framne rate might have less flicker in the image. But PAL runs something like 4% faster than NTSC

Actually it is NTSC that runs faster.

No, that's not correct. I won't go into a lengthy techy explanation, but do a search on 3:2 pulldown for a detailed breakdown on the NTSC telecine process. PAL definitely runs faster when converted from 24fps material.

Actually it is correct. That 4% comes from incorrect conversions.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Actually it is NTSC that runs faster.

No, that's not correct. I won't go into a lengthy techy explanation, but do a search on 3:2 pulldown for a detailed breakdown on the NTSC telecine process. PAL definitely runs faster when converted from 24fps material.

Actually it is correct. That 4% comes from incorrect conversions.

Actually, no, no it's not. Umm, PAL is simply sped up by approximately 4% on 24fps material - facilitating playback at 50hz. If that's your definition of an "incorrect conversion" - again, you're wrong, it's quite correct for PAL. But, it seems you're now accepting PAL does run faster, which contracdicts your original assertion.

Regardless, you can easily confirm the facts for yourself by searching for "PAL speed up" or "3:2 pulldown" for NTSC. But, again, you now seem to be acknowledging PAL does run faster - so I don't really understand what point your trying to make here?

 

[ATimson]

Actually, no, no it's not. Umm, PAL is simply sped up by approximately 4% on 24fps material - facilitating playback at 50hz. If that's your definition of an "incorrect conversion" - again, you're wrong, it's quite correct for PAL. But, it seems you're now accepting PAL does run faster, which contracdicts your original assertion.

PAL (50i) runs faster than film (24 FPS = 24p = 48i).

PAL (50i) runs slower than NTSC (59.97i).

Also, I would argue that something which changes the runtime is incorrect - simply accepted. If it were right, then all of the European Blu-ray releases wouldn't restore films to their original framerate, now would they?

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Actually, no, no it's not. Umm, PAL is simply sped up by approximately 4% on 24fps material - facilitating playback at 50hz. If that's your definition of an "incorrect conversion" - again, you're wrong, it's quite correct for PAL. But, it seems you're now accepting PAL does run faster, which contracdicts your original assertion.

PAL (50i) runs faster than film (24 FPS = 24p = 48i).

PAL (50i) runs slower than NTSC (59.97i).

Also, I would argue that something which changes the runtime is incorrect - simply accepted. If it were right, then all of the European Blu-ray releases wouldn't restore films to their original framerate, now would they?

The effect, as the viewer would see it on screen, is that PAL runs approximately 4% faster on 24fps material, and NTSC runs at pretty much the correct speed. That's what we've been discussing. If not, tomswift2002 was somewhat unclear in his posting IMHO.

OK, fine, by your argument, PAL DVD's are "incorrect" - but so is 24fps converted NTSC material, by virtue of the fact six repeated frames are added in every 24 (or twelve fields if you like). That's not strictly correct, now is it?

Thanks for reminding me about (most) European, and indeed, worldwide, film BD's restoring their original framerates, but I was aware. Actually, (most) film BD's are encoded at 23.976 - not quite the original.

 

[dulcimer47]

I bought season one a week and a half ago for 75 dollars + tax at Target and today I went to Target again and saw it on sale for just 53 dollars. I hate when that happens.

And for me season 2 is slightly better than season one. Both seasons for whatever reason have a stretch of mediocre or bad episodes in the middle of the season.

If it was less than 14 days ago, you should be able to get Target to give you the difference back, FYI.

 

[LtChange]

From Trekcore facebook:

We're hearing reports of ENTERPRISE Season 2 on Blu-ray being released on the week of August 19.