Embarassing moments during good episodes

[Jonas Grumby]

In the episode "The Squire of Gothos," DeForest Kelley refers to a secondary character as "Jaeger," with a hard "J" sound. Everyone else in the episode pronounces it like "Yeager."

And in "Balance of Terror," in at least one scene, Kelley (again) pronounces the name of the commander of the Fesarius, Balok, as something like "Baal-lik," while everyone else pronounces it "Bay-lock."

Now, neither of these are embarassing, just curious. What happened? Production pressures cutting into rehearsal time?

 

[Harvey]

Well, Kelley did have such a hard time pronouncing "gumato" for "A Private Little War" that it was changed to "mugatu" during production.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Kirk's dialogue is specifically referencing a sea voyage (not a space voyage), so it seems fine for what it is...probably a historical reference on his part (he was something of a history/antiquities buff), but it's possible that Earth and/or other worlds in the 23rd century have "old-style" sea voyages as a tourist attraction.

 

[FormerLurker]

He did it in the movies, too, Skipper. Mount "Suh-LEE-uh" instead of "Seh-LAY-Ah", for instance.

And it was "BAH-lock".

 

[J.T.B.]

Maybe it was directly lifted from "The Enemy Below".

I don't think so, but there were definitely similar scenes.

He did it in the movies, too, Skipper. Mount "Suh-LEE-uh" instead of "Seh-LAY-Ah", for instance.

And it was "BAH-lock".

And in "Journey to Babel":

Amanda: Well, he did have a pet (SAY-lot) he was very fond of.
McCoy: (Sellut)?​

 

[Warped9]

Kirk's dialogue is specifically referencing a sea voyage (not a space voyage), so it seems fine for what it is...probably a historical reference on his part (he was something of a history/antiquities buff), but it's possible that Earth and/or other worlds in the 23rd century have "old-style" sea voyages as a tourist attraction.

Yep, works for me.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Gamesters of Triskelion, Shatner flubs a line and it went through:

"What's happening to Lt. You-Hear-Ra?"

Pretty much anything Yeoman Mears says in Galileo Seven makes me cringe ("Oh...it's getting hotttt!" "We could use a little inspiration!" "I got a little bump on the head." Geeeeez).

And having Yeoman Zahra point out the aliens in Operation--Annihilate! don't look real just reinforced that they, well, didn't look real.

And in "Balance of Terror," in at least one scene, Kelley (again) pronounces the name of the commander of the Fesarius, Balok, as something like "Baal-lik," while everyone else pronounces it "Bay-lock."

Corbomite Maneuver, actually.

 

[Kinokima]

Well Deforest was from the South and had an accent. He lost most of it but some of it slipped through. He couldn't say nuclear either.

But hey McCoy was from the South too so it fits with his character.

 

[The Old Mixer]

It always seems odd when a character pronounces a name differently than the other characters, when in-story, it's a name that he would have only heard from the others, and not read.

 

[scotpens]

He did it in the movies, too, Skipper. Mount "Suh-LEE-uh" instead of "Seh-LAY-Ah", for instance.

And it was "BAH-lock".

To me, the way he pronounced it sounded as if it rhymed with "phallic."

It always seems odd when a character pronounces a name differently than the other characters, when in-story, it's a name that he would have only heard from the others, and not read.

Of course, in RL, the actor may have seen the name typewritten in the script pages but not yet heard it pronounced. That doesn't explain, however, McCoy's mispronunciation of "sehlat" immediately after Amanda says it in the same scene!

 

[T'Girl]

scenes you love in episodes you dislike

Catpaw, the scene where Jackson topples off the transporter platform. He doesn't collapse to the floor, he falls over like a tree and hits the floor hard.

 

[Melakon]

That was a great fall actually, because stuntman Jay Jones (credited as Jimmy Jones) didn't appear to break the fall with his hands. It was his first stunt for the series.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Speaking of "What are Little Girls Made of": that Kirk can break off that massive stalagtite is simply ludicrous - and I´m not even talking about the shape of that thing

 

[Kinokima]

I am now starting to be embarrassed by this thread.

 

[J.T.B.]

Of course, in RL, the actor may have seen the name typewritten in the script pages but not yet heard it pronounced. That doesn't explain, however, McCoy's mispronunciation of "sehlat" immediately after Amanda says it in the same scene!

To be fair to Kelley, though, his line and Jane Wyatt's were both close-ups, so he may not have heard the line from the other set-up.

 

[jpv2000]

Here's the exact dialogue:

KIRK: I wish I were on a long sea voyage somewhere. Not too much deck tennis, no frantic dancing, and no responsibility. Why me? I look around that Bridge, and I see the men waiting for me to make the next move. And Bones, what if I'm wrong?
MCCOY: Captain, I --
KIRK: No, I don't really expect an answer.

I love that scene. It gives us insight into Kirk's character, his almost obsessive need for command together with his penchant for self-doubt and occasionally wishing he could just chuck it all. We hear similar sentiments in Kirk's "No beach to walk on" speech in "The Naked Time" and Capt. Pike's exchange with Dr. Boyce in "The Cage."

I love that scene as well. Those type of comments from Kirk helped make him my favorite hero character.

 

[jpv2000]

Well Deforest was from the South and had an accent. He lost most of it but some of it slipped through. He couldn't say nuclear either.

But hey McCoy was from the South too so it fits with his character.

Very true. I'm from the south as well. Born and raised in north east Georgia. I never noticed anything odd about McCoy's pronouncing those are any other words, until I read about it in this thread.

 

[The Old Mixer]

The real-world reason for the alternate pronunciations was obvious enough, but as there wasn't such a reason in-story, it was something that tended to take me out of the episode a little when it happened.

 

[Robert Comsol]

In Obsession: Spock trying to plug vent with his hands. Someone as smart as Spock had to know this wasn't gonna happen, right? ""I'll spread my fingers out to cover more of the vent! that'll be even more effective!"

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x13/Obsession_186.JPG

You got it all wrong!

He was attempting a Vulcan mind meld with the vampire cloud.

But lousy stuntmen? I think the worst offender is the Gideonite guard knocked "out" by Spock in "The Mark of Gideon".

Bob

 

[Melakon]

In "Space Seed", Khan forces the door to his quarters open and attacks the guard outside the door. The stuntman does a great backflip across the corridor into a bulkhead, but his pants split along the inseam and his long underwear is exposed.

Not exactly embarrassing for me, but maybe for the guard.