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Yeah, with Elementary it's always been more about the "how" of the crimes than the "who". You can usually spot the criminal from a mile away.
 
I thought the twist about the killer's nickname was juuuust a bit too contrived and convoluted.

I had wanted to talk a bit about last week's episode, with Into the Badlands' Ally Ioannides featured as a con artist who seemed to be intended as a potential recurring antagonist. She was reasonably interesting and I wouldn't mind seeing her again, though she's no Kitty or Moriarty.
 
I had wanted to talk a bit about last week's episode, with Into the Badlands' Ally Ioannides featured as a con artist who seemed to be intended as a potential recurring antagonist. She was reasonably interesting and I wouldn't mind seeing her again, though she's no Kitty or Moriarty.

Oh, yes. She was quite interesting. I wasn't familiar with the actress; I thought for a while she was one of the actresses from Caprica. In some ways, her character reminded me of Olivia d'Abo's character from Law & Order: Criminal Intent, Nichole Wallace (who was designed as the Moriarty to Vincent D'Onofrio's character).

I wouldn't mind seeing her turn up again to match wits with Sherlock. There have been a couple of episodes where I've felt that Sherlock's conclusions won't stand up in a court of law (the first season episode with Cuddy from House stands out as one), and this was one of those. He solved the crime, but he didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
Oh, yes. She was quite interesting. I wasn't familiar with the actress; I thought for a while she was one of the actresses from Caprica. In some ways, her character reminded me of Olivia d'Abo's character from Law & Order: Criminal Intent, Nichole Wallace (who was designed as the Moriarty to Vincent D'Onofrio's character).

I wouldn't mind seeing her turn up again to match wits with Sherlock. There have been a couple of episodes where I've felt that Sherlock's conclusions won't stand up in a court of law (the first season episode with Cuddy from House stands out as one), and this was one of those. He solved the crime, but he didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
I actually said the same exact thing when posting about this episode on Monday in the What Are You Watching thread.
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/what-are-you-watching.238075/page-171#post-11424224
Watched the most recent episode of Elementary. It was a fantastic episode, funny thing about it was that it felt like a Law & Order: Criminal Intent episode. It even had Kathryn Erbe in it. However the best thing was setting up a Nicole Wallace type adversary.
 
Oh, yes. She was quite interesting. I wasn't familiar with the actress; I thought for a while she was one of the actresses from Caprica. In some ways, her character reminded me of Olivia d'Abo's character from Law & Order: Criminal Intent, Nichole Wallace (who was designed as the Moriarty to Vincent D'Onofrio's character).

Except we already have a Moriarty, and I would rather see her return. I guess Natalie Dormer's been pretty busy lately. Plus, having Sherlock's nemesis be a twentysomething girl seems a little mismatched. However clever she is, he's got far more experience.

I wouldn't mind seeing her turn up again to match wits with Sherlock. There have been a couple of episodes where I've felt that Sherlock's conclusions won't stand up in a court of law (the first season episode with Cuddy from House stands out as one), and this was one of those. He solved the crime, but he didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

But unlike most such cases, that was intentional here, I think -- to ensure that she could remain in play as an adversary.
 
A good one this week by Robert Hewitt Wolfe. It's wild to see a TV mystery revolving around a murder involving the hacking of a self-driving car in a show that isn't science fiction. We are totally living in the future now.

My favorite part -- other than the cat cafe (there are cat cafes? Where can I find one?) -- was Sherlock's speech about strippers as deductive geniuses. That was a marvelously Doylian discourse, on a subject matter you never would have seen in Doyle.
 
Yeah. It was the best episode in a while. Has Wolfe written for the show before? I was actually surprised to see his name.
 
It was cool last night when the writers cited the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition on Twitter for the scene with Tom Wopat's arms dealer. :)

And earlier, the Irregular wanted a Picard "Tapestry" figure, mint in package, for his payment. :)

It was a pretty involving episode. I wasn't quite sure where this was going, and I agree with Christopher completely about Sherlock's discourse in the strip club.
 
Yeah. It was the best episode in a while. Has Wolfe written for the show before? I was actually surprised to see his name.

He's been a co-executive producer since late season 2. This is his sixth credited script for the show. (His previous one was the episode about the group marriage, "All My Exes Live in Essex.")

As I said back in post #397: "I noted in the credits that the writing staff for the show now includes both Robert Hewitt Wolfe, who developed Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda with Majel Roddenberry but was fired from the show after a season and a half and replaced with inferior showrunners who dumbed the show down enormously, and Richard C. Okie, who developed Gene Roddenberry's Earth: Final Conflict with Majel Roddenberry but was fired from the show after half a season and replaced with inferior showrunners who dumbed the show down enormously. I wonder what kind of stories they've traded with each other."
 
A good one this week by Robert Hewitt Wolfe. It's wild to see a TV mystery revolving around a murder involving the hacking of a self-driving car in a show that isn't science fiction. We are totally living in the future now.

My favorite part -- other than the cat cafe (there are cat cafes? Where can I find one?) -- was Sherlock's speech about strippers as deductive geniuses. That was a marvelously Doylian discourse, on a subject matter you never would have seen in Doyle.
We have a cat cafe in Nottingham it's so popular you have to book.
 
It does make me wonder why Steven Moffat hasn't commissioned a Sherlock script from Cornell. They've been friends for twenty-five years, and Moffat wrote the diary entries in Cornell's Human Nature.
 
It does make me wonder why Steven Moffat hasn't commissioned a Sherlock script from Cornell.

Well, to date, every Sherlock episode has been by one or more of Moffat, Mark Gatiss, and Stephen Thompson. With so few episodes, they don't seem to be open to any other writers.

They've been friends for twenty-five years, and Moffat wrote the diary entries in Cornell's Human Nature.

I checked my copy of the book to see if that was something I should've known already. According to the acknowledgments, Moffat plotted the "Old Man and the Police Box" fantasy story that "John Smith" wrote, rather than writing Benny's diary entries (which were a rather extensive piece of the book).
 
We're talking about the same thing. I used the word "diary" because that's the word Cornell used in his introduction to the BBC Books History Collection edition to describe Moffat's contribution: "Steven Moffat, my drinking buddy, had a hand in John Smith's diary entries (I can't remember exactly how much), and, as you'll see, sort of appears in the book."

I agree that Sherlock is a small shop, and clearly Gatiss and Moffat are happy with Stephen Thompson's contributions, though some elements of fandom are not.
 
We're talking about the same thing. I used the word "diary" because that's the word Cornell used in his introduction to the BBC Books History Collection edition to describe Moffat's contribution: "Steven Moffat, my drinking buddy, had a hand in John Smith's diary entries (I can't remember exactly how much), and, as you'll see, sort of appears in the book."

Still, Moffat apparently just plotted them, rather than writing them. Cornell said "plotted" in the acknowledgments of the original book, at which time he presumably remembered better than he did in the much later collection you're quoting.
 
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